Can a particle transform into its counter anti-particle?

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The discussion centers around the theoretical possibility of a particle transforming into its own anti-particle, with specific examples including electrons and protons transitioning to positrons and anti-protons, respectively. Participants explore the implications of charge conservation and particle number, particularly in the context of neutral particles and their behaviors.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the meaning of "transform" and assert that without other particles involved, such a transformation would violate particle number.
  • Others emphasize that charge conservation also plays a critical role in the discussion of particle transformations.
  • It is proposed that for neutral particles, transformations may be possible, with references to kaons and neutral particle oscillation.
  • Some participants clarify that neutral particles are not necessarily their own anti-particles, using hydrogen and anti-hydrogen as examples to illustrate this point.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of neutral kaons, suggesting that they may not represent a straightforward transformation between particles and anti-particles due to their behavior under weak interactions.
  • Participants highlight that antiparticles differ from particles by more than just electric charge, noting that all quantum numbers are reversed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the possibility of particle transformations, particularly regarding neutral particles and the conditions under which such transformations might occur. There is no consensus on whether particles can transform into their anti-particles, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific definitions of transformation and the roles of weak interactions, which complicate the discussion of particle-antiparticle relationships.

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So is there a proposed theoretical mechanism for transforming a particle into its own anti-particle?

##Electron \leftrightarrow Positron##
##Proton \leftrightarrow anti-Proton##
 
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What do you mean by ”transform”? Without any other particles partaking in the process? In that case no, that would violate particle number.
 
And charge conservation.
 
Orodruin said:
What do you mean by ”transform”? Without any other particles partaking in the process? In that case no, that would violate particle number.
What I had in mind is assume we have a particle and an anti-particle and we want to switch between them.
All we need is to exchange between them is the sign of charge, is it possible?
 
MathematicalPhysicist said:
Well don't neutral particles have zero charge and thus they are their own anti-particle?
If the answer to the above question is 'correct', then that's not what I was looking for.
Take a hydrogen atom which is neutral. If you invert the charge of both the electron and proton, you get an anti-hydrogen, which is evidently not equal to a hydrogen atom, although it is also neutral.
 
MathematicalPhysicist said:
Well don't neutral particles have zero charge and thus they are their own anti-particle?
If the answer to the above question is 'correct', then that's not what I was looking for.
No, this is incorrect. Neutral particles are not necessarily their own anti-particles, although it is a prerequisite for that to be the case.

DrDu said:
Take a hydrogen atom which is neutral. If you invert the charge of both the electron and proton, you get an anti-hydrogen, which is evidently not equal to a hydrogen atom, although it is also neutral.
Well, hydrogen does not oscillate into anti-hydrogen (in the standard model) so it may be more instructive to discuss the kaons from your previous post. Neutral kaons are combinations of ##s\bar d## and ##d\bar s##.
 
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Orodruin said:
Well, hydrogen does not oscillate into anti-hydrogen (in the standard model) so it may be more instructive to discuss the kaons from your previous post. Neutral kaons are combinations of ##s\bar d## and ##d\bar s##.
I think that was the point. Not everything neutral is its own antiparticle.
The neutron is another example. Antineutrons are different particles.

@MathematicalPhysicist: Antiparticles differ from particles by more than just the electric charge. All quantum numbers are reversed.
 
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mfb said:
I think that was the point. Not everything neutral is its own antiparticle.
The neutron is another example. Antineutrons are different particles.
I thought the point of the OP was to ask whether particles can transform into anti-particles. For that it is naturally necessary that the particle is different from the anti-particle. The point of #5 was to say that this does indeed happen for (some) neutral particles, but the example of #8 is not one of those cases, but the kaon is.
 
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Another way to look at the situation is to say that the Kaon is only a particle when weak interaction is neglected, but is no longer a particle, once weak interaction is taken into account, but rather a superposition of two resonances with different lifetime. So strictly speaking, there is no transformation of a particle into its antiparticle here either.
 

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