Can an IPOD be recharged using electrolytes?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of recharging an iPod using electrolytes, as demonstrated in a YouTube video. Participants explore the scientific principles behind the concept, including the potential for creating a voltaic cell and the validity of the video's claims.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the USB charger and the electrolytes could create a salt bridge, allowing for a limited charge to the iPod's battery.
  • Others express skepticism about the video's authenticity, questioning whether the iPod is genuinely powered by the proposed method or if it is faked.
  • Concerns are raised about the materials used in USB connectors and their reduction potentials, suggesting that the voltage generated may not be sufficient to recharge the iPod's battery.
  • One participant proposes that the current generated might only be enough to trigger the iPod's display, rather than actually charging the battery.
  • Another participant humorously questions the possibility of faking a YouTube video, indicating a level of disbelief in the video's claims.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the validity of the video's claims, with some expressing skepticism and others considering the possibility of a working principle behind the demonstration. No consensus is reached regarding the effectiveness of using electrolytes to recharge an iPod.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations regarding the types of metals used in USB connectors and the small reaction area for any potential redox reactions, which could affect the feasibility of the proposed method.

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It looks like a pretty straightforward application to me. Obviously the pin connectors for the USB charger are composed of a different metal than the negative housing. The 'electrolytes' are a salt bridge between the negative side and the positive pins in the USB charger cable. The USB cable acts as a limited use battery (and an expensive one too) which partially charges the battery in the IPOD. I suspect the copper components pretty quickly corrode away and the trick doesn't work for long... neither does the USB cable.
 
It is interesting that you should take this video at face value, chemisttree.
I am far more skeptical of its validity, especially when considering the other videos that same YouTube user puts out which are even more difficult to believe (for example, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rA-zhTJuFU&feature=related").

Although it is not entirely implausible to think that some type of voltaic cell is being constructed using the onion and USB charger, I think a more likely explanation is that the video is faked.

I do not know what types of metals they use to make USB plugs (perhaps Copper, Gold, Nickel, or steel), but whatever they are they are probably not that far apart in their reduction potentials. The voltage from such a cell would probably not be very high, and in order for it to recharge the battery it would need to be at least 3.7 volts (the voltage of the Li-ion battery the iPod uses).
Not to mention the very small reaction area over which the redox reaction could occur, the so the current would be very limited and the voltaic cell would supply a very small power.

How do we know that the iPod in the video is actually operating on the ‘power’ supplied by the onion-cell? For all we know it does have internal battery power and that is what it is using and off-camera someone turned it on when we (the viewers) could not see.
Perhaps another possibility is that the iPod turns itself on when it detects a closed-circuit in its battery charger (I don’t have an iPod, so I cannot check this).
 
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It's garbage.

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It is interesting that you should take this video at face value, chemisttree.
I am far more skeptical of its validity, especially when considering the other videos that same YouTube user puts out which are even more difficult to believe (for example, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rA-zhTJuFU&feature=related").

Although it is not entirely implausible to think that some type of voltaic cell is being constructed using the onion and USB charger, I think a more likely explanation is that the video is faked.

Whaaaat? You think someone could have faked a YouTube video? Say it ain't so!
 
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Does look extremely garbage, the only explanation I could think of for this working is making a galvanic cell within the actual USB port maybe?
 
Yes, and that current might be sufficient to cause a signal in the IPOD and cause it to wake up and display the charging icon (as MrJeffy has suggested).
 

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