Recharging Batteries: Electolytic Reactions Explained

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The discussion revolves around the processes involved in recharging batteries, specifically focusing on electrolytic reactions and the nature of the electrochemical processes during charging and discharging. Participants explore the relationship between electrolysis and battery function, as well as the underlying chemical reactions at the electrodes.

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  • One participant suggests that recharging a battery involves reversing electrolytic reactions, akin to electrolysis, to replenish the anode.
  • Another participant notes that the process depends on the type of battery, indicating that both the reduction and oxidation parts of the system must be considered.
  • A participant clarifies that during recharging, the charger provides current but does not supply electrons to the battery itself.
  • It is mentioned that a battery generates voltage and current through electrochemical reactions, which change the chemicals at the electrodes during discharge and must be reversed during recharging.
  • One participant emphasizes that a battery is electrically neutral in both charged and discharged states, storing energy rather than electric charge.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the nature of the processes involved in battery recharging, with some agreement on the general principles but no consensus on specific details or implications of the reactions.

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Participants do not fully resolve the complexities of the electrochemical reactions involved, including the specific roles of the anode and cathode during charging and discharging, nor do they clarify the implications of the battery's neutrality in both states.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals studying electrochemistry, battery technology, or those seeking to understand the principles behind battery operation and recharging processes.

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I understand that a battery works as a series of electrolytic cells when discharging, so would it be true than when it recharges, and undoes the electrolytic reactions, it acts as electrolysis reaction so that the anode can be replenished?

Thanks in advance, would love some clarity on the issue.
 
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This is really a chemistry question, not my forte. I have moved this to the chemistry forum in hopes that one of our chemists will answer.
 
Beasticly said:
I understand that a battery works as a series of electrolytic cells when discharging, so would it be true than when it recharges, and undoes the electrolytic reactions, it acts as electrolysis reaction so that the anode can be replenished?

Thanks in advance, would love some clarity on the issue.

It depends on the battery type, but your thinking is basically OK. That's the general idea. Note, that it is not anode or cathode that is replenished, but whole system - you need both red and ox part of the system.
 
Doh, I probably should've realized this was more a chemistry orientated question. Thanks for moving it Integral!

Borek said:
It depends on the battery type, but your thinking is basically OK. That's the general idea. Note, that it is not anode or cathode that is replenished, but whole system - you need both red and ox part of the system.
Ah, ok, so for the anode to be reduced the cathode has to be oxidised. Cool. :)

So that'd mean that there'd only be a transfer of electrons from within the battery and that the charger would only be providing a current but not actually giving any electrons up to the battery?

Thanks.
 
A battery is not a capacitor where there is a certain amount of stored free charge contained within it. The voltage, and in turn the current of moving charges, is generated by the electrochemical reaction taking place inside the battery (reduction / oxidization of the chemicals at the cathode / anode). The electrochemical reaction will continue to run as long as there is sufficient supply of the proper substances at each electrode (whether that is Copper / Zinc, or Pb / PbO2, or whatever combination that particular battery uses). As the battery discharges these chemicals are chemically changed into a different form which will not generate a current. When you recharge the battery you are running the RedOx reaction in reverse (still a redox reaction though) in order to revert the chemicals at the electrodes back to their states when the battery was fresh.
 
To add to mrjeffy321 post - battery, while called "charged" or "discharged", doesn't carry any electric charge in both states, it is electrically neutral. "Charged" battery stores energy, not the electrical charge. Whether it is used or charged, same amount of electrons goes in as goes out.
 

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