Can anyone suggest to me a method to solve the following?

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The discussion revolves around a differential equation (DE) that a participant is attempting to integrate, specifically exploring methods such as integrating factors. The context includes a model related to an epidemic, and participants are seeking clarification and assistance in solving the equation.

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  • One participant presents a differential equation and expresses uncertainty about the applicability of integrating factors.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the meaning of the variables used in the equation.
  • A participant critiques the notation used in the original post, suggesting that it is unclear and may hinder responses.
  • After receiving feedback, the original poster reformulates the equation using LaTeX for clarity.
  • A later reply proposes a substitution method to integrate the equation, providing a potential solution pathway.
  • Another participant expresses gratitude for the assistance and indicates that the explanation makes sense to them.

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Participants generally agree on the need for clearer notation and the importance of proper mathematical formatting. However, the discussion does not reach a consensus on the best method to solve the differential equation, as various approaches are suggested without definitive resolution.

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The discussion highlights limitations in notation and clarity, which may affect understanding and responses. There are unresolved aspects regarding the integration process and the specific roles of the variables involved.

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I have the following DE that I am trying to integrate. I have been looking at Integrating Factors, but am not sure if it is applicable to this example.

∫〖1/S ds〗= -α∫ PA.e^αPt/ (1+A.e^αPt)

As I said, some tips on a method to do this would be better than solving it for me, because i want to look into it myself and try and see what is going on

Thank you
 
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Anyone have any idea?
 
Not even an idea what it means.
 
Hi Jono. Let me be frank with you. That's indecipherable for me and perhaps others too. For one thing you use little s and big S in the same expression on the left. Also, there are some spurious block-characters in your notation which makes it also cryptic. Then you have no differential on the right side in the integral expression. Now I'm new here and I'm not one to criticize even if I'm old but that is why I think no one is responding. So if you could remember to write your math as utterly nice as humanly possible, I think you would get more replies, like for example:

[itex]\int \frac{1}{s}ds=-\alpha\int \frac{P a e^{\alpha P t}}{1+A e^{\alpha P t}}dt[/itex]

if that indeed is what it is suppose to be.
 
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JonoSmith said:
I'm using it to model an Epidemic

∫〖1/S ds〗= -α∫ PA.e^αPt/ (1+A.e^αPt)

What do your S and s represent?
 
JonoSmith said:
Cheers Jack, I am also new here and was not aware of this Latex Equation input, will give it a go now to see.

[tex]\int \frac{1}{S} dS=-\alpha\int \frac{P A e^{\alpha P t}}{1+A e^{\alpha P t}}dt[/tex]

Is how it is supposed to look. So from here if anyone is able to give me some help it would be much appreciated.

Very good then. Integrate both sides. Note that if I let [itex]u=1+Ae^{\alpha P t}[/itex] then [itex]du=A\alpha P e^{\alpha Pt}dt[/itex]. Then:

[itex]\ln|S|=-\int\frac{1}{u}du[/itex]

or:

[itex]S(t)=K\frac{1}{1+Ae^{\alpha P t}}[/itex]

where K is a constant of integration dependent on the initial conditions or you could have integrated explicitly:

[tex]\int_{S_0}^{S(t)} \frac{1}{S} dS=-\alpha\int_{t_0}^t \frac{P A e^{\alpha P t}}{1+A e^{\alpha P t}}dt[/tex]
 
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Thank you, that makes sense to me.

Cheers so much for the help.
 

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