Can Complex Numbers Rotate and Invert Sine Functions?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between complex numbers, sine functions, and their inverses, particularly focusing on whether complex numbers can be used to rotate and invert sine functions. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and conceptual clarification regarding the properties of sine and arcsine functions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the graphs of y = f(x) and y = f-1(y) are identical, while y = f(x) and y = f-1(x) are reflections across the line y = x, specifically discussing the sine and arcsine functions.
  • One participant questions whether the arcsine function can be viewed as a rotation of the negative sine function, leading to further clarification that it is only a segment of the curve.
  • Another participant suggests that the arcsine function can fit over the negative sine function if rotated 90 degrees about the origin.
  • A participant expresses interest in finding a trigonometric definition of a circle and reflects on the relationship between cosine and arcsine functions in this context.
  • Some participants propose algebraic methods using complex numbers to demonstrate rotation and inversion of sine functions, specifically mentioning multiplication by e^(i*pi/2) for rotation and reflection over the curve y=x for inversion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between the sine and arcsine functions, particularly regarding their graphical representations and transformations. There is no consensus on the interpretation of the title question, as some participants agree on certain aspects while others challenge those views.

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Limitations include the complexity of defining the domains of sine and arcsine functions, as well as the assumptions made about the graphical representations and transformations discussed.

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Sry, noob, but i didn't find this anywhere.
 
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No. Try Google.
 
The two functions are inverses of one another. In general, the graphs of y = f(x) and x = f-1(y) are identical, but the graphs of y = f(x) and y = f-1(x) are reflections of each other in the line y = x.

The situation is a little more complicated with y = sin(x) and y = arcsin(x) = sin-1(x) since the graph of the sine function isn't one-to-one (making the inverse not a function). The usual way around this is to restrict the domain of the sine function, defining y = Sin(x) = sin(x), with x restricted to the interval -pi/2 <= x <= pi/2.
 
So the title would be true for -sin, viewed as a curve?
 
Are you asking whether y = arcsin(x) is the rotation by 90 deg of y = -sin(x)? If that's the question, then no.

If that isn't the question, then what are you asking?
 
zxh said:
So the title would be true for -sin, viewed as a curve?
No it's only a segment of the curve, but the graph of y=arcsin(x) would fit over y=-sin(x) if rotated 90° either way about the origin.
 
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Thanks, that's what i was looking for. I'm not too concerned about range definitions.
I came to this looking for a trig definition of a (half) circle (not the pythagorean Sqrt(r-x^2)).
At first i was wondering why Cos(Sin(x)) (given that the 2 functions for a circle in a parametric plot are sinx and cosx) didn't work but it turns out it's
Cos(ArcSin(x)).
 
You can show this algebraically. If you are familiar with complex numbers, this is easy.
1) multiply x+i (-sin x) with e^(i*pi/2) to rotate it by 90 degrees.
2) reflect x+i(-sin x) over the curve y=x to invert it.
 
Jarle said:
You can show this algebraically. If you are familiar with complex numbers, this is easy.
1) multiply x+i (-sin x) with e^(i*pi/2) to rotate it by 90 degrees.
2) reflect x+i(-sin x) over the curve y=x to invert it.

thanks, good one.
 

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