Can Dark Energy Be Described as a Force?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the characterization of dark energy, specifically whether it can be described as a force. Participants explore the implications of dark energy in the context of cosmic expansion and the Hubble flow, engaging with theoretical concepts and mathematical formulations.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a mathematical expression for the force of expansion related to kinetic energy and dark energy density.
  • Another participant argues that expansion is not a force, stating that objects in the Hubble flow move along geodesics without any applied force.
  • A participant questions the possibility of describing dark energy as a force, acknowledging the theoretical limitations.
  • Another response reinforces that describing dark energy as a force would imply non-geodesic motion or a non-inertial frame, which does not apply in this context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the characterization of dark energy as a force, with some asserting it cannot be described as such while others explore the idea further. The discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the theoretical limitations of describing dark energy in terms of force, emphasizing the distinction between geodesic motion and non-inertial frames.

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1/2 mv2 kinetic energy of expansion and force will beΩ
m(dv/dt)=m((dH/dt)D+H2D). Thats the force of expansion. But have can we describe the force of dark energy ? I thought F=P/S P=ωρc2 then force will be F=-ρc2/R2 am I right ? (ρ=dark energy density)
 
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Quarlep said:
1/2 mv2 kinetic energy of expansion and force will beΩ
m(dv/dt)=m((dH/dt)D+H2D). Thats the force of expansion.

No, it isn't. Expansion is not a force; objects which are moving with the Hubble flow are moving along geodesics, with no applied force at all.

Quarlep said:
can we describe the force of dark energy ?

Dark energy isn't a force either; it's just a contribution to the overall spacetime geometry that determines the Hubble flow.
 
Cant we show them like force I know there's no force theorytically
 
Quarlep said:
Cant we show them like force I know there's no force theorytically

No. "Force" would imply either non-geodesic motion, or a non-inertial frame in which a comoving object's coordinate acceleration was nonzero. Neither of those applies to what you are suggesting.
 

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