Can Dark Energy Be Tested in a Lab Using Superconductors?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a new theory of dark energy that proposes a model involving electromagnetic vacuum energy and suggests laboratory tests using superconductors, specifically through the use of Josephson junctions. The scope includes theoretical exploration and potential experimental applications.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant summarizes a seminar discussing a new model of dark energy that posits a small cosmological constant generated by electromagnetic vacuum energy, with virtual photons existing in two states: gravitationally active and inactive.
  • The proposed model suggests that only gravitationally active virtual photons contribute to the cosmological constant, and it includes a phase transition similar to Ginzburg-Landau theory.
  • Another participant mentions previous attempts to detect dark energy using solid state devices like Josephson junctions, expressing skepticism about the likelihood of success but acknowledging the experiment's potential value.
  • A different participant questions the feasibility of distinguishing between the two types of photons proposed in the theory, citing gravitational lensing as a possible counterpoint to the existence of such differences.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of skepticism and curiosity about the new theory and its experimental validation. There is no consensus on the validity of the proposed model or the likelihood of successfully detecting the predicted effects.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight uncertainties regarding the implications of the proposed photon states and the experimental outcomes, as well as the broader context of previous attempts to detect dark energy.

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I attended a seminar today in which a new theory of dark energy was discussed. I'm not sure which forum to put this in, since it includes a lot from other fields, but since it is regarding dark energy, cosmology seems the best place. Here's a link to the paper http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/astro-ph/pdf/0703/0703364v2.pdf, and abstract

We introduce a new model for dark energy in the universe in which a small cosmological constant is generated by ordinary electromagnetic vacuum energy. The corresponding virtual photons exist at all frequencies but switch from a gravitationally active phase at low frequencies to a gravitationally inactive phase at higher frequencies via a Ginzburg-Landau type of phase transition. Only virtual photons in the gravitationally active state contribute to the cosmological constant. A small vacuum energy density, consistent with astronomical observations, is naturally generated in this model. We propose possible laboratory tests for such a scenario based on phase synchronisation in superconductors.

The theory describes dark energy as fluctuations in the electromagnetic vacuum energy. The new physics that the authors invent involve describing the virtual photons to be in two states; a gravitationally active state, and a gravitationally inactive state (like spin up and spin down particles). Only photons in the gravitationally active state contribute to the cosmological constant.

He then goes on to propose an experiment that can test this, using something called a Josephson junction (from superconductor physics). They have been given funding for this, and the apparatus is currently being built, and experiments should be done by next year.

I'm not too sure how useful this will be, or even how correct or substantial the theory is, but it's a theory of dark energy that can be tested in the laboratory-- something which the other theories cannot!

The good thing about the seminar was that the presenter did not state outrageous comments, or imply that this was groundbreaking physics: he was careful and even admitted it could easily be wrong, but I think I'll definitely be looking out for the results of the experiments!
 
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I have heard of other attempts to detect (and possibly claims of detections?) dark energy using solid state devices such as Josephson Junctions. If you made a measurement and showed convincingly that the vacuum energy density you get matches that implied by cosmology the Noble would be as good as on the mantelpiece. I think it's a long shot but certainly one worth taking!
 
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cristo said:
The new physics that the authors invent involve describing the virtual photons to be in two states; a gravitationally active state, and a gravitationally inactive state (like spin up and spin down particles). Only photons in the gravitationally active state contribute to the cosmological constant.

What do you think the chances are of finding two different types of photons? I would think that we would have already seen the difference in gravitational lensing, right?
 

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