Can Dark Matter Be Utilized for New Technologies and Applications?

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The discussion revolves around the potential applications and technological implications of Dark Matter, including its properties, interactions, and the feasibility of utilizing it in practical ways. Participants explore theoretical concepts related to Dark Matter's interaction with itself, its gravitational properties, and its relationship with ordinary matter.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether Dark Matter could lead to new technologies or applications, suggesting that its manipulation is currently beyond our capabilities.
  • There is uncertainty about whether Dark Matter interacts with itself and, if so, what force governs that interaction.
  • Some participants propose that macroscopic bodies of Dark Matter might be possible if it interacts with itself, while others express skepticism about this likelihood.
  • Concerns are raised about the possibility of densifying Dark Matter and whether it could achieve significant electromagnetic interaction, with some asserting that electromagnetic radiation will not interact with Dark Matter regardless of its density.
  • One participant posits that Dark Matter can pass through regular matter and questions whether it can also pass through other Dark Matter.
  • There is speculation about the composition of Dark Matter, with inquiries into whether it has counterparts to ordinary matter's quarks and whether it interacts with the quantum vacuum.
  • Some participants express frustration with science journalism regarding the reporting of mass computations related to Dark Matter, emphasizing the need for clarity on its interactions and characteristics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a range of views, with no consensus on the potential applications of Dark Matter or its fundamental properties. Disagreement persists regarding its interactions, the possibility of macroscopic bodies, and the nature of its relationship with ordinary matter.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in current understanding, particularly regarding the interactions of Dark Matter with itself and with the quantum vacuum. The discussion reflects ongoing uncertainty about the fundamental nature of Dark Matter and its potential applications.

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And of course there's also been the other recent news about possible indications of a discovery of Dark Matter from detectors floating above Antarctica.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/11/25/healthscience/25dark.php

Could Dark Matter somehow permit new technologies or applications?

What practical things could we do with Dark Matter?

Does Dark Matter interact with itself? If so, then via what force?
Is it possible to have macroscopic bodies of Dark Matter?
Can Dark Matter be densified? ie. could these WIMPy Dark Matter particles be clumped together until they created a body sufficiently dense that it would have significant EM interaction?

If Dark Matter has gravitational pull, then could we use it to manipulate gravity?
 
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sanman said:
Could Dark Matter somehow permit new technologies or applications?

Probably not. We have no way to manipulate it, so there's nothing we can really DO with it.

Does Dark Matter interact with itself? If so, then via what force?

The answer is not known, but if it DOES interact with itself, it can neatly explain some of these puzzling results. If it does interact with itself, then it does so via a new force.

Is it possible to have macroscopic bodies of Dark Matter?

Possibly, but not likely. Some people have studied "clumping" of dark matter, and if it DOES interact with itself, then it may form bound states.

Can Dark Matter be densified? ie. could these WIMPy Dark Matter particles be clumped together until they created a body sufficiently dense that it would have significant EM interaction?

Well, either way, no matter how dense the dark matter clump, EM radiation will never interact with it. So no.

If Dark Matter has gravitational pull, then could we use it to manipulate gravity?

Not anymore than we could use normal matter for this purpose.
 
Thanks for your reply. :)

I for one believe that everything can have some kind of practical application, if you look hard enough.

Ordinary matter can't pass through itself, but Dark Matter can pass through regular matter. The question is -- can Dark Matter pass through other Dark Matter?

If Dark Matter can gravitate towards other matter, then is it possible to have both regular matter and Dark Matter co-residing together within the same space?
(ie. if some mass of Dark Matter falls to Earth, then won't it pass through the ground, travel to the center of the Earth, and just stay there, trapped by Earth's gravity?)

If regular matter is made of quarks, then what is Dark Matter made of?
Dark quarks?
 
The recent ab initio mass computation has said QCD makes up 95% of mass effects.

If Dark Matter is supposed to have mass characteristics comparable to matter, then shouldn't it likewise be interacting with the quantum vacuum or the quark sea, or something?

And with regular matter, hadrons bind together through the strong force, but can the same be said for Dark Matter?
Are there Dark counterparts to protons and neutrons?

If there aren't, then where's the symmetry?
 
sanman said:
The recent ab initio mass computation has said QCD makes up 95% of mass effects.

This is why I hate science journalism---the reporting in the article marcus linked to is extremely irresponsible.

If Dark Matter is supposed to have mass characteristics comparable to matter, then shouldn't it likewise be interacting with the quantum vacuum or the quark sea, or something?

No---dark matter does not interact with the vacuum the way that quarks do inside a proton. This is because the dark matter is probably a fundamental particle.

[QUOTE[And with regular matter, hadrons bind together through the strong force, but can the same be said for Dark Matter?
Are there Dark counterparts to protons and neutrons?[/QUOTE]

Probably not, but we don't know. Dark matter is different from normal matter---how different we don't quite know. The dark matter may interact under a new force---if this is the case, then there may be bound states like the proton and neutron. Again, this is not known yet.
 

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