Can Different Species Reproduce With Each Other?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of reproductive isolation among different species and the implications for hybrid offspring, particularly focusing on why some species can reproduce but produce sterile offspring. The scope includes biological definitions, mechanisms of reproduction, and examples from various species.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that reproductive isolation is defined by the inability of different species to produce viable offspring due to genetic differences.
  • Others argue that even closely related species, such as horses and donkeys, can produce hybrids (mules or hinnies) that are sterile, raising questions about the mechanisms behind this phenomenon.
  • A participant expresses curiosity about the exact mechanisms that lead to the production of sterile offspring, questioning why reproduction occurs without resulting in viable progeny.
  • There is mention of a continuum in species where populations can interbreed with neighbors but are reproductively isolated at the extremes, complicating the definition of species.
  • Some participants highlight that the definition of species based on reproductive isolation is not perfect, citing examples of North American canids that interbreed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the concept of reproductive isolation but express differing views on the implications and mechanisms of hybrid sterility. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact processes that lead to sterile hybrids and the complexities of defining species.

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Limitations include the lack of consensus on the definitions of species and hybridization, as well as the complexities surrounding genetic compatibility and reproductive success.

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Why is it that different species can not reproduce with each other?
 
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Because that's the definition of what it means to be "different species".
 
Nothing000 said:
Why is it that different species can not reproduce with each other?

THe technical term is reproductive isolation. The root cause is that their genes are too different, but this can produce various different effective causes. Perhaps the members of the species will just not look attractive to each other. And if the members do mate (or are forced to mate in the laboratory) the different genes may make it impossible for a viable zygote (initial single cell of the offspring) to form, or if formed to successfully attach to the placenta (in mammals), or if attached to successfull develop thorugh all the stages of embryology.

Some species, such as horses and asses, are close enough to produce a viable offspring (mule or hinny), but those offspring are then sterile.

Mutation and selection do tend to produce reproductive isolation, and human scholars then use reproductive isolation to define species, but that definition is not quite perfect. There are several cases of organisms which exist in populations spread out in a line like beads on a string. Each population will breed fertilely with its neighbors on either side, but the two populations at the end of the "string" are reproductively isolated. How many species is that? Or consider my ever-recurring example of North American canids. Wolves, coyotes, domestic pooches, none of them entirely reproductively isolated from the others.
 
selfAdjoint said:
THe technical term is reproductive isolation. The root cause is that their genes are too different, but this can produce various different effective causes. Perhaps the members of the species will just not look attractive to each other. And if the members do mate (or are forced to mate in the laboratory) the different genes may make it impossible for a viable zygote (initial single cell of the offspring) to form, or if formed to successfully attach to the placenta (in mammals), or if attached to successfull develop thorugh all the stages of embryology.

Some species, such as horses and asses, are close enough to produce a viable offspring (mule or hinny), but those offspring are then sterile.

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I have always wondered about how this happens. What exactly explains that they can reproduce but necessarily have sterile offsprings? What is the exact mechanism for that to happen? It is fascinating that such a situation could occur. It would seem that either reproduction would be impossibel *or* it would lead to viable offsprings (viable in the sense of able to reproduce themselves). How does this work?
 
selfAdjoint said:
Some species, such as horses and asses, are close enough to produce a viable offspring (mule or hinny), but those offspring are then sterile.

That is extremely interesting. I didn't even know that horses and donkeys could produce offspring. I thought mules were a species of their own. What other combinations of species can create sterile offspring like that?
 

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