Can Energy Really Transform into Matter at CERN?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of energy transforming into matter, particularly in the context of high-energy particle collisions at CERN. Participants explore the nature of energy as a property and its relationship to particle creation, questioning how an abstract concept can lead to the formation of physical particles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the nature of energy, describing it as an abstract property and questioning how it can transform into matter.
  • Another participant suggests that it is more accurate to say that particles with a specific amount of energy can transform into other particles with the same energy amount.
  • A later reply seeks clarification on the mechanisms by which energy transforms into different particles, indicating a need for deeper understanding of the standard model.
  • One participant acknowledges the complexity of the standard model and suggests that further questions may be better suited for a specialized forum.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of energy and its transformation into matter, with differing interpretations and questions remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of energy and matter, as well as the specifics of particle transformation processes, which are not fully explored or agreed upon.

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Okay, this quite confuses me. "Energy" isn't anything physical. You can't point at energy. It's more of a property, like length. The definition of kinetic energy is ## ke = .5mv^2##.

Now, how can something like an abstract property turn into matter? An example being CERN, when new particles are created from energy when particles with high energy smash into each other.

Please let me know if I got something wrong, thanks!
 
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BlueQuark said:
Now, how can something like an abstract property turn into matter?
That isn't quite accurate. A better way to say it is that particles with a given amount of this abstract property can turn into other particles with the same amount of this abstract property.
 
Dale said:
That isn't quite accurate. A better way to say it is that particles with a given amount of this abstract property can turn into other particles with the same amount of this abstract property.
Okay, that does make a bit more sense. Do we know how exactly they turn into different particles though?
 
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BlueQuark said:
Okay, that does make a bit more sense. Do we know how exactly they turn into different particles though?
That is a large part of what the standard model explains. I don't know it well enough to explain it, but I would recommend asking that question in the QM forum. Be warned, there probably is not a B level answer.
 

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