Can Epicyclic Gearing Operate with No Fixed Axis?

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Epicyclic gearing can theoretically operate without a fixed axis, but practical applications are rare. The discussion highlights that when the sun gear is the input and the ring gear is the output, the planets must rotate freely, complicating the calculation of the reduction ratio. The reduction ratio does not solely depend on torque; it requires consideration of all three rotations simultaneously. This complexity is likely why such configurations are not commonly utilized.

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The teacher said it is possible to use an epicyclic gearing with no axis fixed but nobody use the gearing like that. I watched this video:



at time 42s it's possible to watch it. I have 2 questions:

1) Is it possible to used the epicycloidal train with no axis fixed ?

2) If yes, what is the ratio of reduction ? is it dependent of the torque ?

Maybe if you have a link ?

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I'm looking for this case, but each time the epicyclic gearing is used with one fixed axis.
 
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Cri85 said:
1) Is it possible to used the epicycloidal train with no axis fixed ?
I don't see an argument against it.

Cri85 said:
2) If yes, what is the ratio of reduction ? is it dependent of the torque ?
You have to consider all three rotations at the same time. Things like a ratio of reduction that consider only two do not make sense any more. That's probably the reason they are not used in that mode.
 
mfb said:
Things like a ratio of reduction that consider only two do not make sense any more.
I can set the input to the sun gear and the output to the ring gear (planets are free to turn like they want) ? Why there is no a ratio ?

In this case, it's possible to reduce a rotational velocity without give a torque on the support ?
 
Cri85 said:
(planets are free to turn like they want) ?
Then your output will not get any torque (neglecting friction). The free axis will rotate with the right speed to give zero output power.
 

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