Can Free Particles in Plasmas Have a Continuous Absorption Spectrum?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of absorption spectra for free particles in plasmas, particularly focusing on whether free particles, such as electrons and molecules, can exhibit a continuous absorption spectrum. Participants explore the implications of translational motion, quantization of energy levels, and the effects of different types of radiation on these particles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the energy of free particles is not quantized, suggesting a continuous absorption spectrum might be expected.
  • Others argue that molecules, unlike single atoms, have quantized energy levels due to rotational and vibrational modes, which influence their absorption characteristics.
  • A participant questions whether a completely free molecule would absorb all radiation, thus becoming opaque, and seeks clarification on the implications of translational energy.
  • Some participants highlight that translational motion typically does not contribute to spectral features in spectroscopy, as it primarily results in Doppler shifts.
  • There is a discussion about the Born-Oppenheimer approximation and its relevance to separating electronic and vibrational/rotational movements in molecules.
  • One participant suggests that scattering processes, such as Rayleigh and Raman scattering, may play a role in the interaction of light with free particles.
  • Concerns are raised about the relationship between absorbed energy and translational motion, particularly in the context of laser ablation and the photoelectric effect.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about the effects of photon interactions on the linear momentum of gas particles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not reach a consensus, as multiple competing views remain regarding the nature of absorption spectra for free particles and the implications of translational energy. The discussion includes both agreement on certain principles and significant disagreement on interpretations and implications.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific conditions, such as the nature of the particles involved and the type of radiation used. The discussion also highlights unresolved aspects of how translational energy interacts with absorption processes.

  • #31
(Posted by Dickfore:)
So, how are they free if they are in the vicinity of atoms?
Claude Bile said:
Free as in not bound to a nucleus. Conduction band electrons in a condensed dielectric for example.
The difference between the photoelectric effect, in which the photon's total energy is absorbed by the electron, and Thomson scattering on free electrons, is that a little recoil momentum is absorbed by the recoiling atom or atomic lattice. Conduction electrons are not free electrons; the work function to remove a conduction electron is >= 3 eV.

Bob S
 

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