Can I Create a Calibration Curve Using Only Peak Area Data?

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The discussion revolves around the creation of a calibration curve using peak area data from an ion chromatography experiment, specifically focusing on F- ions. Participants explore how to derive a calibration curve from known concentrations and corresponding peak areas, as well as the implications of using peak height versus area.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions having normalized data for a known sample with a concentration of 10 ppm and seeks guidance on creating a calibration curve based solely on peak area.
  • Another participant suggests that assuming a zero signal for 0 ppm provides two points (0 ppm and 10 ppm) to draw a straight line for the calibration curve, although they acknowledge this may not be the best approach.
  • Some participants discuss the relationship between peak area and concentration, with one emphasizing that using peak height could also be a valid method, especially if the curve is well-defined.
  • There is a query regarding the normalization of data and whether it is appropriate to use area under the curve for calculating concentrations of unknown samples.
  • Several participants confirm that if the area under the curve and the gradient are known, the concentration of an unknown sample can be calculated.
  • Participants reiterate the importance of adhering to the instruction to use area for the calibration curve, despite discussions about alternative methods.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

While there is some agreement on the basic approach to creating a calibration curve using peak area, there are differing opinions on the best methods to use (area vs. height) and the implications of normalization. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the normalization process and its impact on the calibration curve. There are also unresolved questions about the relationship between peak area and concentration, as well as the appropriateness of using peak height.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals involved in analytical chemistry, particularly those working with ion chromatography and calibration curve development.

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I've just done an ion chromatography experiment and have normalized my data for a known sample which has a known concentration of 10ppm.

I know that the first large peak is due to F- ions and so the area of the peak is propositional to the concentration of the ion.

Given that I know the area, how can I get the calibration curve just by this information ?
 
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Assume signal would be zero if there were no F- at all, that gives you two pints, enough to draw a straight line.

That's not the best approach in general, but better than nothing.
 
Borek said:
Assume signal would be zero if there were no F- at all, that gives you two pints, enough to draw a straight line.

That's not the best approach in general, but better than nothing.
Thanks, but I'm not sure I fully understand.

This is my current data graph; https://i.gyazo.com/72d8f842cc504e924d1d0f106fb0266a.png
The first large peak corresponds to F- ions.
If I assumed the signal as 0 how would I plot a calibration curve ? Would it be possible for me to choose 2 points on the curve which produce a linear relationship ?Thank you in advance for your help :)
 
You know the area of a peak that correspond to a 10 ppm concentration, yes?

Assume 0 ppm would produce no peak - or a peak of area 0.

That gives you two points for calibration curve - one for 0 ppm concentration and one for 10 ppm concentration.
 
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Borek said:
You know the area of a peak that correspond to a 10 ppm concentration, yes?

Assume 0 ppm would produce no peak - or a peak of area 0.

That gives you two points for calibration curve - one for 0 ppm concentration and one for 10 ppm concentration.
I see, thanks.

To calculate the area, can I normalise my data so that the area under the curve is directly po
Borek said:
You know the area of a peak that correspond to a 10 ppm concentration, yes?

Assume 0 ppm would produce no peak - or a peak of area 0.

That gives you two points for calibration curve - one for 0 ppm concentration and one for 10 ppm concentration.
Thanks. I've managed to do it and used excel to calculate the gradient, in the form y=mx+c
One last question.

If I run a sample with an unknown concentration of F-, if I know the area under the curve (y) and the gradient (m), knowing that c=0, would I just solve for (x) which would be my concentration of F- in the unknown sample ?
 
CannonSLX said:
To calculate the area, can I normalise my data so that the area under the curve is directly po

You lost something here. You can use peak height instead of the area, typically these are related (and in the case of a nice curve - like the one you have - it is quite good approach).

CannonSLX said:
If I run a sample with an unknown concentration of F-, if I know the area under the curve (y) and the gradient (m), knowing that c=0, would I just solve for (x) which would be my concentration of F- in the unknown sample ?

Yes.
 
Borek said:
You lost something here. You can use peak height instead of the area, typically these are related (and in the case of a nice curve - like the one you have - it is quite good approach).
Yes.
We've been told to use area, so would normalising be the right idea for this approach ?
 
If you are told to use area - use area.
 
Borek said:
If you are told to use area - use area.
Thanks for your help :)
 

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