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Schools Can I get into Caltech?

  1. Dec 5, 2016 #1
    First of, I migrated from England to Australia when I was 10, I am now currently 13 and just finished Year 8 (7th Grade in America I believe)I love Science, Coding/ computer science and most of all, Astronomy. I get B+/A- in Science and Maths but I never really try because I find most of it boring.

    As said in Australian High Schools it goes, year 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12, then you graduate. I am starting year 9 in 7 weeks. With this said I get A's and B's in most of my classes, getting B's in the ones I care less about, I prioritise Maths and English. Next year is what I call the pre-preparation year. Year 10 is the year you prepare for moving on into (what Americans would call, Junior and Senior year).

    I am in the top 3 of my class but there is one person who has massive potential in my class. He's very friendly, but not so much a friend despite the fact I talk to him (also from Britain) and is much smarter than me. Yet, because he doesn't give to flying grades about school he mostly get C's and B's and I feel kinda bad for him.

    Anyway, I have an action plan for getting into Caltech/MIT/Harvard etc. Now obviously I'm trying not to be too overly ambitious and chances are slim although I have a history of having very good luck, despite the fact that luck does not exist, there was an 80% chance that when I was born I was going to either be blind or deaf. The acceptance rate of Caltech is 8% as of today, plus 7.9% of MIT then 5% for Harvard = 20.9% chance. If I'm as lucky as when I was born I may get in to one of them.

    Plane tickets will cost a fortune but with my job included, our family makes about $160,000 USD per year. Of course I am not basing this all on luck and hope, that would be stupid. I've been told for the application essay to do something creative. Which sparked an idea in my mind.

    Ok, not to sound like I'm trying to grab attention, but I'm a little evil. I used science and studies to manipulate the girl I liked into liking me back and overtime it did work. I used the, the more you're around something the more you'll like it approach which increased dopamine levels when she was around me. I took this a step further and gave her foods that released other endorphins into her brain. I do mess with people psychologically and I decided it may give me an advantage with getting into a good college.

    With a create approach I'll write the essay in 3rd person, this'll make it interested while manipulating whomever the reader is into thinking i'm much better than I actually am. instead of saying " I have lust for Advanced Coding." It will say something similar to "He/She has an infatuation with Astronomy." Of course these are just examples and will not be in the essay. The 3rd person adds a creative twist yet manipulates there mind into believing I am better than I actually am.

    I'm very aware of the fact that Yellowstone park will eventually erupt like the super-volcano it is and am willing to take this risk. after doing a few little calculations this should increase my overall chance of getting into one of these 3 schools to about 30%. being a little more realistic, about 28%. I have had tremendous luck getting into advanced schools before, similar to the Private school I am in now. It requires you to be a catholic and have been baptised and confirmed despite the fact I am not Catholic, nor have I been confirmed (but I have been baptised) I got into both private schools I aimed to get into. I chose the slightly more advanced school.

    With this said, what would you say my chances are of getting into one of these schools, I'm trying to get ahead now so It'll pay off later.

    I'm not called James.
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  3. Dec 5, 2016 #2


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    But you will be in competition with people who work very hard at ALL of their subjects without regard to whether they are "boring" or not and who get straight A's so you'd best up your game.
  4. Dec 5, 2016 #3

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    What phinds said.

    MIT receives 19,000 applications per year and enrolls, on average, one Australian. Caltech is five times smaller.
  5. Dec 5, 2016 #4
    Caltech was more of an example for the Title, I wouldn't mind getting into any Ivy League College.
  6. Dec 5, 2016 #5


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    Same issue
  7. Dec 5, 2016 #6
    If this helps getting into MIT, I have straight A+'s in ICT and Coding. Apparently if I took the 10th Grade test I'd probably get an A/A- so I'm pretty good at that. I also study Quantum Mechanicals because I believe the more we study it, the more it may help us as the potential for using the Quantum mechanicals/ Quantum computers for engineering and the enhancement/development of the Human race is phenomenal.

    They're just another few points to add to the board.
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    All good stuff but unless you overcome the issues I quoted in post #2 they won't matter. It's a VERY competitive world out there.
  9. Dec 6, 2016 #8
    This stat alone suggests that you would want to have A+ in EVERYTHING just as a bare minimum pre-requisite, if you are serious about making it into that school. Its not just about being smart, its about working very hard to achieve the absolute best in everything. Being bored is not an option here. If this is truly what you want, then start with that.
  10. Dec 6, 2016 #9


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    Yep. Exactly.
  11. Dec 6, 2016 #10
    Your advice is taken on board, I've also heard much about not be a well rounded student, be exceptional and achieve great things in one or two specific subjects, for me that will be coding as I have already published mods for games and have made small games myself, that I haven't published.
  12. Dec 6, 2016 #11
    At the minute I'm very pumped to go back and give it everything I've got, my point is, If I get A's and B's without caring or studying at all then if I did my grades would increase to straight A's, next Year I'm joining the Coding team and hopefully going to get the ball rolling for myself. Thankfully, I'm not too late.
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    Good attitude and you're right about having time. Hope it works out for you.
  14. Dec 6, 2016 #13
    Thanks man, Merry Christmas :) Also, at the minute I'm reading this and it's pretty interesting. http://blog.prepscholar.com/how-to-get-into-harvard-and-the-ivy-league-by-a-harvard-alum

    It guarantees that if I take its advice on board I'll get into Harvard which is completely ridiculous, but it did give me something to read ;)

    I believe that Coding is my ticket into one of these schools because it would appear that it is by far my strong point :) If I go on to make a good selling App/Game in 2017 then that may show the College of potential in the future.
  15. Dec 6, 2016 #14
    Year 9 and 10 is usually pretty easy..I was also top of my class from british system.

    I recommend you find something good you like and really get to love it, instead of loving the school love the subject!
    dont try any manipulation with professers or admissions committee people.
    good luck!
  16. Dec 6, 2016 #15
    I know what you're saying, and thanks for telling me, although I found that the British system was a little easier than the Australian, but with that said, I was only there for Primary School so It may be equivalent. It's not so much front facing manipulation more than it is subliminal manipulation. Don't worry I try not to take many risks but believe me, the whole 'He' thing checks out. Think about it a little.

    Merry Christmas, Thanks to the people who replied honestly and wished me good luck.
  17. Dec 6, 2016 #16
    Hello, thanks..I meant i was top in year 10 and then i barely scraped a pass when year 11 and 12 came, it was quite sad as I was 21 (missed a few years of school, didnt go) when I finished a levels. and i could not get any scholarship or go to any decent university. i still fail most of my classes, and would probably drop out and forget academia soon.
    what is your favourite subject? start developing your knowledge in this. :)
  18. Dec 6, 2016 #17
    By far my favourite subject is ICT/Coding but I also love Astronomy and the wonders of Space, me and my 7 year old sister watch Secureteam 10 whenever he uploads. She is fascinated by Extraterrestrials, I am too except whatever he uploads is BS, but she seems to enjoy it. There are very few pieces of evidences that I can't seem to prove fake. But most of it is fake anyway so why wouldn't the few others be? If Aliens did exist it would be very clear by now.

    Sad to hear about what happened to you but I wish you the best of luck in the future! I'm already equivalent to a year 11 Programming student, download a mod for a game you probably don't own here: http://spacedock.info/mod/889/Astronomer's Visual Pack: Andromeda-V3 (WIP) I made it, if you're interested to see what I can do. It may not be the best example since its pretty much just changing particle effects and textures...
  19. Dec 6, 2016 #18
    Ok, I've come to a conclusion, I must refrain from being 'well-rounded' And stand out in a particular subject. For me that is coding. Coding is my ticket, next year I'll enter competitions, I have a friend whom is much less ambitious than me and does not intend to do any of the things I want to do, despite the fact that he is a little more intelligent than me (And I am catching up :) I'll try and drag him into the competition, to work in unity as a team, I'll try and drag us into MIT, Coding is my Golden Ticket, I must stand out as an incredible coder, We'll put the game on Steam Green-light, see what happens and you never know...

    Now excuse me, it's 3:21am (Insomnia), so night...

    Call me James.
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    There are PLENTY of terrific and well-respected universities in the US. I don't understand this "Ivy League or bust" mentality at all, especially at the undergraduate level.

    Are you saying that you'll be highly disappointed if you get admitted to UC-Berkeley, University of Chicago, University of Michigan, Johns Hopkins University, SUNY-Stony Brook, UCLA, Stanford, UIUC, etc.... etc? Really?!

  21. Dec 6, 2016 #20
    Odds are better if you aim more for a top 75 or so school for undergrad, earn a 3.9+ GPA in your favorite STEM major, hit a home run on the subject GRE, publish a few papers as an undergrad, and secure outstanding recommendation letters.

    Getting into top 10 schools for grad school is much easier than for undergrad. The above considerations may sound tough, but at least there is a well-defined path with a high probability of success.
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    You never know, there might even be a decent university or two in Australia.
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    To summarize elite school admissions in a few lines: they are completely random, even for the top applicants. Unless you are a recruited athlete, legacy, or child of a donor, it all depends on how you come across to the particular people on the admissions committee at that particular moment in time. They are not at all fair, some people who would be top students at these schools get rejected and end up doing very well elsewhere, other students who were admitted turn out to be duds who don't belong there (I hear this all the time from grad students who teach at the schools you mentioned).

    So basically my advice is that you should just do what you are interested in. You could do everything right and still be rejected which could make you feel like you wasted a good portion of your life.
  24. Dec 6, 2016 #23
    No, as I said before, it doesn't have to be Harvard or MIT, more or less any top school, like Stanford of UC-Berkeley.
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    If you are going to avoid being "well rounded" then you're much more likely to get into a "not American" school. Cambridge gets quite a few Aussies.
  26. Dec 6, 2016 #25


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    I'm not sure it's such a great idea to start putting all of your eggs in one basket while you're still in high school.

    It's great that you've found a particular area that you enjoy and that you excel in. You absolutely should pursue that. But not to the exclusion of other opportunities. There can be tremendous value in being a "well rounded" person.
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