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Can I split up the left hand side of an ODE?

  1. Sep 24, 2013 #1
    Should I just assume that any problems that involve integrating factor will always result in a perfect integral pair? That's probably not the right terminology but for instance if I have a differential equation which has had an integrating factor multiplied to both sides, then the left hand side most likely becomes a 'perfect integral' as an arbitrary example, a left hand side is y' e^2t + 2y e^2t which if I integrate this as a whole, I would say well that is y e^2t.

    Can I assume that this will always be the case in terms of an entry level differential equations class? What happens if the left hand side is not easy to differentiate ?
     
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  3. Sep 24, 2013 #2

    UltrafastPED

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    You will learn a number of techniques; each will apply to a certain class of linear ordinary differential equations.

    You should not expect a particular technique to work on every ODE.
     
  4. Sep 24, 2013 #3

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    What do you mean by "perfect integral"? In all except "pathological cases", both sides will be continuous which will certainly be "integrable". But I suspect that you mean "An integral that I can do" and that, of course, depends upon you!

    (I remember in my very first d.e. course, first chapter, I was able to reduce a d.e. in a homework problem to an integral but just wasn't able to do the integral. The solution to the very next problem in the text was in the back of the book so I looked- and found that the answer was given in terms of an integral!)

    If the problem is a "book home work" problem the either it is one that has been "made up" to be comparatively easy or you are expected to leave it as an integral. If you are talking about "real life", engineering problems, then "almost all" differential equations can be solved only numerically.

    Did you mean to say "differentiate" here? You want to integrate to find the solution. And the whole point of an "integrating factor" is to get the left hand side in the form "[itex]d\phi[/itex]" which has the obvious integral "[itex]\phi[/itex]".
     
  5. Sep 26, 2013 #4
    Thank you for the responses, reading my own posts it would seem clear that I have not been doing my work thus I don't even know what words I am using.

    I have been studying and the material has been making sense

    Still I find that lately I haven't had a good learning experience, specifically to me, I think that learning has become "this is what you want to do, find this on the test..." it's not really on "intuition" or instinct

    When I read a real life problem like a lake draining and filling, or salt dissolving, it seems to make sense but at the same time, these methods seem like I am just expected to apply them. I can't say that the proof wasn't shown to us, I think the books cover the proofs of why these methods are valid...

    Anyway, thank you for your time.
     
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