Can I Write a Scientific Paper Without Mathematical Proof?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of writing a scientific paper without mathematical proofs, particularly in the context of exploring the origin of the universe. Participants consider the requirements for scientific publication, including the necessity of data and the role of mathematical language.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a scientific paper can be written without mathematical proof, specifically regarding ideas about the origin of the universe.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of defining what constitutes a 'scientific paper' and suggests that while one can write a paper, it may not be suitable for peer-reviewed journals without data.
  • Some participants argue that scientific work requires supporting data, asserting that it is not considered science without it.
  • A participant expresses a desire to include more mathematical language in their paper, though not necessarily proofs, and questions the impact of their age and educational background on their ability to publish.
  • There is a suggestion that reading existing journals is crucial for understanding the standards of scientific writing and publication.
  • One participant notes the complexity of scientific publications and the need for extensive reading and understanding before being able to contribute meaningfully to the field.
  • Another participant encourages the original poster to not be discouraged by the challenges of scientific writing and to recognize the learning curve involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that writing a scientific paper without data is problematic, but there is no consensus on the exact requirements for publication or the role of mathematical language in such papers. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the feasibility of publishing without proofs or data.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of clarity on what constitutes sufficient mathematical language or data, as well as the varying standards across different journals. The discussion also reflects differing views on the prerequisites for writing a scientific paper.

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Can I write a scientific paper with just the ideas? Without any mathematical proof. I plan on writing about the origin of the universe.
 
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Define 'scientific paper'.

Of course you can write a paper if you want. The question is, what do you want to do with it?

Submit it to a peer-reviewed journal? No.
 
I do wish to publish my paper to a scientific journal, will it not get through if I don't have a supporting data?
I changed my plan to contain more mathematical language but not of proofs, just the consequences of my theory.
Also will age and educational background matter? I'm currently in high school so will it matter?
 
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I do wish to publish my paper to a scientific journal, will it not get through if I don't have a supporting data?

Of course not. It's not science without data.

You would be better served by reading journals than worrying about writing in one. Scientific publication is a dialog, and wanting to write without reading is the same as trying to have a conversation by talking and not listening.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Of course not. It's not science without data.

You would be better served by reading journals than worrying about writing in one. Scientific publication is a dialog, and wanting to write without reading is the same as trying to have a conversation by talking and not listening.

Thank you Vanadium 50, I thought that I should have studied more as well. Since I'm not subscribing to any journals (magazines I have), can you recommend one for me? Would Nature Physics be good enough?
 
I would start with a trip to the library to see which journals you understand before subscribing to any of them.
 
I think you misunderstand how scientific publications work. Writing down some "idea" in english words is not science. This is an example of a scientific result (from theoretical particle physics) - and you'll have to read a lot of publications before you can produce something like that on your own. You can also check the experimental side - that needs an actual experiment and data from it.
 
I guess I did misunderstood it, off to reading some journals then :)
 
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It's good to be ambitious, especialy at your age, so don't get discouraged by this. You'll find when you look at some of the journals that they appear to be written in a different language, even though you recognize most of the words as being English. "Doing" science is a serious pursuit and it will take a decade of serious study just to gain enough knowledge to understand fully what is in those papers, before even being capable of writing your own that is on the same level.
 

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