Automotive Can Increasing Con Rod Length Lead to Detonation and Supplier Issues?

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Increasing the con rod length by a few hundred microns can lead to significant issues, including potential piston contact with the cylinder head, which may bend the connecting rod. A clearance of 0.050" (1250 microns) is critical to avoid such problems, and a 150-micron increase in length tolerance raises concerns about engine performance. The thrust on the piston could double if it hits the cylinder head, emphasizing the need for precise measurements. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding specific design parameters and the reasons behind the supplier's inability to maintain tighter tolerances. Overall, careful consideration of con rod specifications is essential to prevent detonation and ensure optimal engine function.
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hello, what happen if cod rod length increase by few hundred microns?
 
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the closest pistojn to cylinder head clearance should be 0.050" ( 1250 microns) and having closer distance would mean the piston hits the cylinder head and bends the connecting rod. This is a V8 cast iron engine forged con rod spec and a general guide line so beware...
 
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my supplier asking for 150 micron increase in length tolerance?
 
Well is an online forum really the place to be asking for advice? We don't know your design, we don't know what is important.

What happens if the conrod tolerance is increased by 0.15mm? The conrod could potentially be upto 0.15mm longer than previously spedified. That's really the only sensible answer we can give.
 
Thanks Chris for your concern, It all about engine performance that concern me.
My liitle concern about what it will increase the piston thrust.
 
atulmalode said:
Thanks Chris for your concern, It all about engine performance that concern me.
My liitle concern about what it will increase the piston thrust.

The thrust will increase by exactly -100%, if the piston hits the cylinder head.

As the others said, it needs MUCH more information to answer to your question.
 
What is the rod length?

What is the piston top to cylinder head clearance?
 
2milehi said:
What is the rod length?

What is the piston top to cylinder head clearance?

rod lenght-150mm
clearance-1.5mm
 
Unless you are running a true hemispherical combustion chamber, you need to think about detonation in the quench areas. But, more importantly, you need to be asking why your supplier can't hold tolerance any longer.
 
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