Can Martial Artists Sense Danger Before It Happens?

[FredGarvin]

I would like to get back to this post (emphasism mine):

The advanced guys don't even have to do that. They can kill someone without touching them.

You know how Darth Vader choked that guy out in the first Star War movies? Vader made that choking motion with his hands and the guy started choking? That is real. People can really do that.

The martial arts guy just reaches into the other guys body and stops his heart.

Originally I thought you were joking. These are the kinds of statements that I question...

 

[Happeh]

How am I wrong?

You are wrong in thinking that I am a con man who is trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Or that I am a mistaken person about my claims.

Ok, I suspend my disbelief for a moment. Why do you think you're right? Has anything happened that could not be explained by any other conventional method? Are there others who could varify anything you suggest? Would you consider the possibility that you are wrong?

I know that I left a list of incidents for people to read. After each one I clearly wrote "This is true".

"To give someone like Bill Clinton a heart attack.

Wasn't it convenient Clinton had a heart episode requiring surgery right at the end of the campaign so he could not stump for Kerry? If Clinton had continued campaigning for Kerry, Bush would have lost.

To control people. If you anger me and I get upset, I make you sick until you apologize.

True story. Names changed to protect the innocent.

To protect my family. Let's say some very angry man is approaching my son. I do not know the man's intentions but I can tell he is very angry almost to the point of violence. I can take control of the man and make him go away.

True story. Names changed to protect the innocent.

To get people to have sex with me. Did you see the second Matrix? You know that incredbily tedious sequence with the...Watchmaker? when he was giving that girl in the restaurant an orgasm? That is possible. The women don't know what it is, they just know they feel good when they are around you. Works the other way too. Women doing it to men. The men don't know why, they just love being around that woman.

True story. Names changed to protect the innocent.

To sell people things. They come to my store looking. I control them so they buy something expensive.

True story. Names changed to protect the innocent."

Are there others who could varify anything you suggest? Would you consider the possibility that you are wrong?

Yes there are others that could verify what I suggest. Would they? No. It is necessary to think thru the ramifications of this to understand why. If a person has power over another, will they willingly relinquish it? Probably not. If someone who can control others tells everyone, they will get mad and punish him. What possible motivation does he have to be honest? No good can come of it.

You do not need anyone else to tell you anything. If someone else tells you, you will never believe. You must prove it to yourself. This is easy to do if you keep an open mind and begin looking at examples and common everyday life. It might take you 6 months or a year of examples to convince yourself but in the end you will convince yourself completely.

No I will not consider the possiblity I am wrong. I am right. I have no doubt.

 

[Happeh]

I would like to get back to this post (emphasism mine):

Originally I thought you were joking. These are the kinds of statements that I question...

This is only an example Fred. It is a very popular and well known example. Everyone has seen this movie so they instantly know what I am talking about. The problem arises because people fixate on "It's a movie" instead of focusing on the idea of one man, darth vader, controlling another man over a distance.

That scene is truly possible. I am not saying the actors in the movie really truly did that, I am saying the enacted a situation that can really happen in real life.

I can provide the both of you with an example of people having energy. The problem is that if you do not accept my explanation for what is happening, we go no where. I think it is common sense that it is necessary to examine multiple examples and truly study the examples given before making a snap judgement. My experience in showing these examples to others is that, because internet time is so fast, people look at the example for 3 minutes, decide they see nothing and then say that means all of my claims are wrong and the example shows nothing.

If you wish, you can view this video. This video shows an example of energy between two people. I will not tell you what is going on. This is just like science. You need to view the evidence and write down your observations independent of my giving hints. Then the different observations can be compared to see if the various observers see similar things.

If I remember correctly, this is a Shooto fight from Japan. 2 fighters have been in the ring for some time. They have reached the end of the round and they are both exhausted. The part of interest begins around 1 minute into the vide and continues to the end. I left in a minute of buildup so that the viewer has time to relax and get a feel for the interactions between the two men. There is a clue in the video title to what is going on. It is an Xvid MPEG 3 video. Xvid is an open source codec you may have to acquire and install. I use Media Player Classic. I do not know if Windows Media Player will play the video or not. It is a 30 meg download if you are on dial up.

http://www.happeh.com/Videos/Entangled.avi

 

[Daminc]

You are wrong in thinking that I am a con man who is trying to pull the wool over your eyes.

I never thought you were a con man I just thought you were mistaken in your beliefs.

I know that I left a list of incidents for people to read. After each one I clearly wrote "This is true".

Contarary to most politicians beliefs stating "This is true" doesn't make it true.

All the 'examples' that you have given have alternative explanations which are more mundane and acceptable.

Yes there are others that could verify what I suggest. Would they? No. It is necessary to think thru the ramifications of this to understand why. If a person has power over another, will they willingly relinquish it? Probably not. If someone who can control others tells everyone, they will get mad and punish him. What possible motivation does he have to be honest? No good can come of it.

You do not need anyone else to tell you anything. If someone else tells you, you will never believe. You must prove it to yourself. This is easy to do if you keep an open mind and begin looking at examples and common everyday life. It might take you 6 months or a year of examples to convince yourself but in the end you will convince yourself completely.

No I will not consider the possiblity I am wrong. I am right. I have no doubt.

This just suggests to me that you might need some help. I'm not emphatically saying you are wrong but I think it is highly unlikely that what you said is correct and that you might be dillusional. Please don't take it personally but I had a friend once called Paterick who said something similar to you but this was after he was spiked with 37 acid trips. He was a nice guy until he has one of his 'turns' and has to go back to the hospital (baring in mind he also claimed that he was god and claimed I was Jesus trying to upsurp his position).

 

[Daminc]

I do not know if Windows Media Player will play the video or not. It is a 30 meg download if you are on dial up.

I tried to have a look but it wouldn't load for me.

A friend of mine who has trained heavily in Jeet Kun Do mentioned that, as part of his training, he used shootfighting for developing his tactics while fighting on the ground as says it's a really nasty form.

 

[FredGarvin]

I know that I left a list of incidents for people to read. After each one I clearly wrote "This is true"...

No I will not consider the possiblity I am wrong. I am right. I have no doubt.

Just so I "understand" what is going on here, since I am a "free thinker" and I can rationalize something in MY mind, and I end my sentences with "This is true" everything I say is true or factual? I like that.

 

[FredGarvin]

This is only an example Fred. It is a very popular and well known example...That scene is truly possible. I am not saying the actors in the movie really truly did that, I am saying the enacted a situation that can really happen in real life.

It is not an example, it is a scene from a movie. An example would be an act that happened, for real, was witnessed by other people and is reproducable.

I can provide the both of you with an example of people having energy. The problem is that if you do not accept my explanation for what is happening, we go no where.

I am well aware of energy between people. What I question is your opinions on what you feel can be done with those energies.

If you wish, you can view this video. This video shows an example of energy between two people. I will not tell you what is going on...There is a clue in the video title to what is going on.

http://www.happeh.com/Videos/Entangled.avi

I watched the video quite a few times and I saw nothing that is mystical or defies common knowledge of MMA techniques.

 

[inha]

Neither did I. I saw two tired fighters and techniques one sees in just about every mma bout. But I'm guessing it's because "we can't detect the energy" or "don't know what to look for".