Can My Ideas Be Stolen or Plagiarized From These Forums?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around concerns regarding the originality of ideas and the potential for plagiarism when sharing mathematical concepts, specifically related to exact differential equations. Participants explore the implications of being self-taught and the importance of community feedback in developing and validating ideas.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to share original ideas on exact differential equations, emphasizing their self-taught background.
  • Another participant counters that being self-taught may lead to a lack of awareness of existing work, suggesting that originality is less likely.
  • A participant shares an anecdote about an aspiring songwriter to illustrate the risks of not sharing ideas due to fear of theft, implying that isolation can hinder development.
  • Some participants propose that if the ideas have merit, there is a possibility of plagiarism by others, particularly anonymous lurkers.
  • There are suggestions that the ideas may not be original or correct, encouraging the original poster to share them regardless.
  • Another participant recommends testing partial aspects of the ideas with the community to gauge their validity without revealing everything.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the likelihood of originality and correctness of the ideas presented. There is no consensus on whether the ideas are indeed original or if they have already been explored.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the potential limitations of being self-taught, including gaps in knowledge about existing literature and concepts. The discussion reflects a range of perspectives on the value of community engagement in the development of mathematical ideas.

Sagan_
I am asking this question because I am interested in posting a topic on exact differential equations which I derived while idle at my job. Given that I am self-taught in mathematics, many of my ideas are likely to be original. They do not overturn conventional knowledge, for they are grounded in current theory, and I am interested in discussing this and other topics.
 
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Sagan_ said:
Given that I am self-taught in mathematics, many of my ideas are likely to be original.

Actually, the exact opposite is MUCH more likely. Given that you are self-taught, you are less likely to know what has already been done.
 
see https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=131804
 
Sagan_ said:
I am asking this question because I am interested in posting a topic on exact differential equations which I derived while idle at my job. Given that I am self-taught in mathematics, many of my ideas are likely to be original. They do not overturn conventional knowledge, for they are grounded in current theory, and I am interested in discussing this and other topics.

I can tell you this, if you don't share your "original" ideas somewhere, the development of your thoughts are likely to stall faster than a 777 flying into the SF airport. If you are self-taught and closed off from an interactive community, your work is 1) likely full of holes, and 2) has probably already been derived long ago and passed on, which is why you can't find any current literature on it. So you think it's original. My advice is to save some time and join the community.

I mentioned in a thread a while back about this "aspiring" songwriter that walked into a friend of mines recording studio and wanted a publishing deal on the spot because his songs were so great and original. He was sure he was the next Bob Dylan. Sounds great so far, but the guy wouldn't let anyone even listen to the songs until he had a signed contract because he was afraid the songs would get stolen. It took about 10 seconds for my buddy to show this guy the door after lots of belly laughter. Needless to say, 10 years later and nobody's heard from him since.
 
Sagan_ said:
I am asking this question because I am interested in posting a topic on exact differential equations which I derived while idle at my job. Given that I am self-taught in mathematics, many of my ideas are likely to be original. They do not overturn conventional knowledge, for they are grounded in current theory, and I am interested in discussing this and other topics.
If we stipulate, for the sake of answering your question, that your ideas have merit, then, yes, some person might conceivably plagiarize them. An anonymous lurker, for example, could easily take someone's idea and then later claim to have no knowledge of PhysicsForums, and to have thought the thing up separately, themself. (Yes, I said "themself.")
 
DiracPool said:
I can tell you this, if you don't share your "original" ideas somewhere, the development of your thoughts are likely to stall faster than a 777 flying into the SF airport.

Too soon.
 
It's unlikely your idea is original or even correct, so you may as well post it. If you think it's both, then submit it for publication.
 
FlexGunship said:
Too soon.

Sorry :redface:
 
dipole said:
It's unlikely your idea is original or even correct, so you may as well post it. If you think it's both, then submit it for publication.

Another thing you can do is "test the waters." Take some partial or derivative aspect of your ideas and test them against the group here. If you choose carefully, you won't be giving anything away but will get some kind of idea if you're on the right track or if you may be way off.
 

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