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The discussion centers on the feasibility of achieving oil independence in the U.S., particularly under Obama's administration. Key points include the need for significant policy changes, investment in transportation infrastructure, and a cultural shift towards energy efficiency and alternative energy sources. Participants express skepticism about the U.S. achieving true energy independence without a major commitment to nuclear power, citing examples from other countries like France, which successfully transitioned to nuclear energy. The conversation also highlights the challenges of relying on renewable energy sources like wind and solar, which are seen as insufficient to meet energy demands in the near term. The importance of high fuel prices as a catalyst for change in consumer behavior is emphasized, with suggestions for setting a price floor for gasoline to encourage efficiency. Overall, while there is optimism about the potential for renewable energy technologies, there is a consensus that a multifaceted approach, including nuclear energy, is essential for a sustainable energy future.
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Gokul43201 said:
Time to get rolling already. But what's the solution to NIMBY?
Bribery - would you like to pay no sales tax, would you like a 1000 new jobs.
Threats - alternatively we could build a 4Gw coal fired station, of course it would mean a few 1000 trucks a day carrying coal through your small village.
USEBY - (use somebody elses backyard) let the French build the power stations and buy the power from them.
 
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Bribery is how landfill companies do it and they don't have anywhere near the money of a nuclear plant construction project, so I don't see that adding a significant cost to nuclear plant construction.
 
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russ_watters said:
Bribery is how landfill companies do it and they don't have anywhere near the money of a nuclear plant construction project, so I don't see that adding a significant cost to nuclear plant construction.

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There was a 60 Minutes piece about this a few years ago, but googling "landfill benefit residents" gives you a lot of good hits:
KEKAHA — Concerned citizens packed the Kekaha Neighborhood Center Monday night to begin a long-term discussion on how the residents should spend the hundreds of thousands of dollars they will receive from the county as compensation for the existing landfill outside of town.

Kekaha will receive a $650,000 upfront “host community benefit” for housing the soon-to-be-expanded landfill, and will continue to receive annual funding, potentially as high as six figures each year, based on how much tonnage of rubbish is brought to the Westside facility, officials said.

In trying to help the community decide how to allocate those funds, the county proposed the idea of a 13-person Citizens Advisory Committee.
http://savekauai.org/waste-%2526-recycling/kekaha-residents-bandy-landfill-benefits
 
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A practical note: Today I received my first request ever [for engineering services] from a wind power company.

I've been wanting to go up one of those :biggrin:
 

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