The discussion revolves around the concept of duality in physics, specifically wave-particle duality, and whether it serves a purpose in understanding the framework of reality. Participants explore the implications of duality in quantum mechanics and its relevance to scientific investigation, touching on theoretical and conceptual aspects.
The discussion features significant disagreement regarding the validity and implications of wave-particle duality. Some participants assert it has been abandoned in modern physics, while others maintain it is still relevant, particularly in the context of the double slit experiment. No consensus is reached on the purpose or existence of duality.
Participants express differing views on the interpretation of quantum mechanics and the historical context of duality. There are references to the evolution of scientific understanding and the challenges of measuring quantum phenomena, but these points remain unresolved.
Scientists make models which explain measurable things, then test them.pittsburghjoe said:Does Duality serve any other purpose than preventing investigators from fully understanding the framework of our reality?
no it doesnt. the results are well understood using statistics.It doesn't exist? Did I miss a memo somewhere? Doesn't the double slit experiment prove that it does?
... what do you mean by "purpose"? You keep using vague terms in non-standard contexts you can pseudoprove anything.I'm asking to go deeper than "cause, that's just the way it is". Lots of things have a purpose, maybe this magical particle-wave has one other than driving scientist crazy for the last 100 years.
nonsense... scientists are allowed to do any measurement they like... this is how scientific theories get support, or are disproved.pittsburghjoe said:They are not allowed to measure ..that's the problem.
... get it peer reviewed and published first, and you won't get scolded.I have a theory, but I'm scolded on this site whenever I mention it.
Apparently so - the notion of wave-particle duality was abandoned when the modern mathematical form of quantum mechanics was discovered in the 1920s. You won't find it in any textbook written in the past half-century or more, except perhaps as a historical footnote.pittsburghjoe said:It doesn't exist? Did I miss a memo somewhere?
No, as that experiment is also consistent with the modern formalism.Doesn't the double slit experiment prove that it does?
The way to do that is to work your through a serious textbook and learn what quantum mechanics really is.I'm asking to go deeper than "cause, that's just the way it is".