Can science prove that god doesn't exist ?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the question of whether science can prove the non-existence of God. Participants explore the relationship between science and faith, the nature of evidence, and the implications of various philosophical arguments regarding existence and non-existence.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that science cannot address the existence of God unless a God is made available for empirical testing.
  • Others suggest that proving non-existence is fundamentally impossible, as it applies to any entity, including hypothetical beings like flying unicorns.
  • A participant notes that the burden of proof lies with the believer, as science does not typically engage with questions of belief.
  • There are claims that the assumption that science can debunk faith is a common fallacy, and that Occam's Razor is often misapplied in this context.
  • Some participants express frustration with the recurring nature of debates about proving or disproving God's existence, suggesting it reflects differing value systems.
  • A later reply discusses the evolution of complexity from simplicity in the universe, contrasting this with the idea of complexity arising from a divine creator.
  • One participant mentions that while logical arguments can be made against God's existence, these may not apply to a transcendent being.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; multiple competing views remain regarding the relationship between science and the existence of God, as well as the nature of evidence and belief.

Contextual Notes

Some arguments depend on definitions of God and the nature of scientific inquiry, while others highlight the limitations of empirical evidence in addressing metaphysical claims.

  • #181
poor mystic said:
I want to say that for me, the question of whether a separate spiritual reality exists is closed. I assert of my own personal experience that human beings have a set of bodies overlaid upon one one another like layers of images in Photoshop.
This which I say is true, though it is not my daily experience.
The Watcher said:
On a subjective note, I know that there is an unseen intelligence which I can communicate with and visa versa and that this interactive communion has quiet satisfactorily proved itself to my personal experience and has enabled me to bring order to what was once viewed by me as chaos – and thus now, coherency to my experience of life.

In a thread which has already been on shaky ground, this has crossed the line from abstract philosophy into assertion of mysticism.

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  • #182
DaveC426913 said:
In a thread which has already been on shaky ground, this has crossed the line from abstract philosophy into assertion of mysticism.

Thread locking commencing. Please remain where you are. Authorities have been dispatched to your location.

Fat lot you know. You don't even objectively exist. Or object to existing. Or something.
 
  • #183
GeorginaS said:
Fat lot you know. You don't even objectively exist. Or object to existing. Or something.
Hey.

Just for that, you are two inches tall and I'm using your head as a Q-tip - in my mind.
 
  • #184
GeorginaS said:
Fat lot you know. You don't even objectively exist. Or object to existing. Or something.


"I refute it thus!" - kicking with mighty force a very large stone.
 
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  • #185
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