Can someone explain this summation definition to me?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the summation definition of the area under a curve using limits. Participants clarify how to set up the summation for specific functions, such as f(x) = 4√x and f(x) = ln(x)/x, over given intervals. Confusion arises regarding the placement of terms within the summation, particularly how to incorporate the starting value of the interval and the function's evaluation points. It is emphasized that 'a' represents the left endpoint of the interval, and the notation must be correctly interpreted to reflect the function's values at specific points. Overall, the conversation aims to clarify the mathematical notation and its implications for calculating areas under curves.
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A=limn→∞Rn=limn→∞[f(x1)Δx+f(x2)Δx+...+f(xn)Δx]

Consider the function f(x)=4√x, 1≤x≤16. Using the above definition, determine which of the following expressions represents the area under the graph of f as a limit.

I knew the correct answer was \sum \frac{15}{n} (4√x+\frac{15i}{n})

I figured out most of this, but the only thing I don't get is how you figure out is basically since you start the sum from i=1 to n, that you have to shift the sum up. If i=0, then I think there would be no "1+" term, right?
But let's say it was... i =5 to n. I have no idea why, or where you would put the added terms in order for the sum to work. I thought that it would be outside of the function 4√x but inside of the summnation, because, well, you're just adding values, right?
I don't see or understand intuitively why 1+ would go inside of 4√x.Similarly, I got this right but didn't understand the idea.
A=limn→∞Rn=limn→∞[f(x1)Δx+f(x2)Δx+...+f(xn)Δx]

Consider the function f(x) = \frac{ln(x)}{x},3≤x≤10. Using the above definition, determine which of the following expressions represents the area under the graph of f as a limit.

Of course, the answer was Δx and \frac{ln 3+\frac{7i}{n}}{3+\frac{7i}{n}}, but just like above, wasn't sure why the \frac{ln3}{3} went there. I thought if anything, it should be an added term, not mixed up with the main fraction.
 
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The area is

$$\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\sum_{i=1}^n \dfrac{b-a}{n}\mathrm{f}\left(a+i\dfrac{b-a}{n}\right)$$

The function values are determined by dividing the interval into equal parts. a+i(b-a)/n are the points that that divide the interval evenly.
 
Thanks, I understand that, but just about the notation- Do you mean to say f(x)? And the X being all the stuff in parentheses?

But sorry, I have another confusion- if a is on the inside of those parentheses, isn't A the starting value? Then why, for example is the answer for that lnx/x one not the A value from, 3≤x≤10, which would make it 3, right? Instead of ln3?
 
CookieSalesman said:
Thanks, I understand that, but just about the notation- Do you mean to say f(x)? And the X being all the stuff in parentheses?
I'm pretty sure he didn't mean f(x) or he would have written that. To understand what that notation means, try it out with a simple function like f(x) = x2 and an interval [0, 2].

See what you get with, say, n = 4. The summation will have 4 terms.
CookieSalesman said:
But sorry, I have another confusion- if a is on the inside of those parentheses, isn't A the starting value?
a is the left endpoint of the interval.
CookieSalesman said:
Then why, for example is the answer for that lnx/x one not the A value from, 3≤x≤10, which would make it 3, right? Instead of ln3?
This doesn't make much sense, so I don't know what you're asking.
 
CookieSalesman said:
But sorry, I have another confusion- if a is on the inside of those parentheses, isn't A the starting value? Then why, for example is the answer for that lnx/x one not the A value from, 3≤x≤10, which would make it 3, right? Instead of ln3?
It would have been clearer with parentheses. You should have written
$$\frac{\ln \left(3 + \frac{7i}n\right)}{3 + \frac{7i}n}$$ which I hope you recognize as ##f\left(3 + \frac{7i}n\right)## when ##f(x) = \frac{\ln x}{x}##.
 
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