Can sunlight be turned into other things besides energy.

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The discussion centers around the concept of whether sunlight can be transformed into materials other than energy, particularly through the process of photosynthesis in trees. Participants explore the implications of manipulating photosynthesis and the theoretical possibility of creating metals from sunlight.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that trees convert sunlight into "tree food" and suggest the potential for manipulating photosynthesis to create other materials, including metals.
  • Others argue that plants primarily use sunlight as an energy source to produce glucose and oxygen from carbon dioxide and water, emphasizing that sunlight itself does not create matter.
  • A participant mentions that the conversion of elements, known as transmutation, has only been achieved in nuclear reactions and particle accelerators, implying that creating metals from sunlight would require a breakthrough in this area.
  • One participant reiterates the initial claim about trees creating "tree food," but challenges the reasoning behind the idea that sunlight could be manipulated to produce other materials.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the nature of sunlight's role in the creation of materials, with some asserting that it can lead to the production of various substances and others maintaining that it is solely an energy source for photosynthesis.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the manipulation of photosynthesis and the feasibility of transmuting elements using solar energy. The discussion does not clarify the scientific basis for the proposed transformations.

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Trees turn sunlight into "tree food". They turn sunlight (which is basically nothing) into something. Maybe if we manipulated the process of photosynthesis, we could make trees turn the sunlight into other materials (and maybe in the far future we could have trees making metals for us). Thoughts?
 
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Actually, I think plant only use the sunlight as an energy source to produce glucose and oxygen from water vapor and carbon dioxide.

CO_2(g)+H_2O(g)+energy\rightarrow C_6H_{12}O_6(s)+O_2(g)

It is true that energy and mass (matter) has a distict relationship \left(E=mc^2\right), but the trees don't create the so called "tree food" from pure sunlight energy.
 
Espen's right, plants only use sunlight as an energy source. It's the same as if you have a photoelectric cell that you used to power some sort of manufacturing. The conversion of one type of element to a different one is called transmutation. We've only done it in nuclear reactions, and particle accelerators. If we discovered some way to transmute at will any element into another then we could use solar power to do it. That would create metals out of whatever elements we had available, using power from sunlight. That's about as close to metals from sunlight that you're going to get.
 
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Trees turn sunlight into "tree food". They turn sunlight (which is basically nothing) into something. Maybe if we manipulated the process of photosynthesis, we could make trees turn the sunlight into other materials (and maybe in the far future we could have trees making metals for us). Thoughts?

As the first post explained, your reasoning is wrong on many levels. The only the sunlight does in the Calvin cycle is provide energy to fuel the reactions.
 

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