Can Super Strong Magnets Counteract Black Hole Gravity?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the possibility of using electromagnetism, specifically super strong magnets, to counteract the gravitational pull of a black hole and potentially allow particles to escape past the event horizon. The scope includes theoretical considerations of forces, black hole properties, and the nature of particles in extreme gravitational fields.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether electromagnetism could help something escape a black hole, suggesting that gravity is weak compared to other forces.
  • Another participant argues that since electromagnetism is propagated by photons, which cannot escape a black hole, it would not be possible for a magnet to pull particles out.
  • A different viewpoint introduces the concept of virtual particles, suggesting that they can escape from a black hole and that black holes can acquire charge, thus potentially interacting with electromagnetic forces.
  • One participant references Stephen Hawking's work on virtual particles at the black hole horizon, asserting that they do not violate the speed of light and that black holes can gain charge from surrounding matter.
  • A later reply challenges the previous points by asking about the implications if a black hole already had a charge before collapsing.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of electromagnetism in relation to black holes, with no consensus reached on the feasibility of using magnets to counteract black hole gravity.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss various assumptions about the nature of forces, the behavior of particles near black holes, and the implications of charge, which remain unresolved.

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Would is be possible for electromagnetism so help something escape from a black hole past the event horizon? Gravity is weak compared to the other forces, but it seems only electromagnetism would have a chance as the strong nuclear force is for holding atoms together, and weak nuclear force is I believe for radioactive decay. So my question is if you had a super strong magnet could it over power the gravity of a black hole and pull particles out?
 
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Electromagnetism is propagated by photons, which is light, and by definition light cannot escape the event horizon of a black hole. So, the answer is no.
 
However, virtual particles CAN escape from balck hole (because they are not limited by C)

For this reason BH can be charged and attract/repel other charges.
 
See Steven Hawking treatise on virtual particles at a black hole horizon. They do not violate c. Black holes acquire charge from matter in their accretion zone.
 
Chronos, no.
What if BH *already* had a charge before it collapsed?
 

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