Can the Drude Model Explain Scattering Time in Terms of Unit Conversion?

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The discussion revolves around the Drude model and its application to calculating scattering time, specifically focusing on unit conversion for the scattering time μ = eτ / m, where τ is the mean time. Participants are exploring the relationship between various physical quantities and their units in the context of this model.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to derive the scattering time and are questioning the unit conversion process involved in the calculation. There is discussion about the relationship between charge, mass, and time, and how these relate to the desired unit of cm²/V·s. Some participants suggest using known relationships to aid in the conversion.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and corrections regarding unit conversions and the relationships between physical quantities. There is recognition of the need for more information about the material properties to fully address the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of the material properties in determining the scattering time, indicating that the mean free path and free electron density are relevant factors. There is also mention of the original question being necessary for further assistance.

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I got the answer of the hw, but still have question about it.
I need to calculate the scattering time μ = eτ / m. τ is the mean time.
the unit needs to be in cm^2 / V.S

I put the unit like this :

e = coulumb
τ = s
m = kg

then it's impossible to get the unit like that.

Then I'm wondering if I could use this to find τ and plug it in :
σ = ne^2 τ / m then

μ = σ / ne , but I got a problem that it's still not possible to solve it since we don't know the material then don't know σ.

Who could tell me what's going here. I appreciate it.
 
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tigigi said:
I got the answer of the hw, but still have question about it.
I need to calculate the scattering time μ = eτ / m. τ is the mean time.
the unit needs to be in cm^2 / V.S

I put the unit like this :

e = coulumb
τ = s
m = kg

then it's impossible to get the unit like that.
No, it is possible. You need to convert from Coulombs to units involving volts (use the relation E =QV).

Then I'm wondering if I could use this to find τ and plug it in :
σ = ne^2 τ / m then

μ = σ / ne , but I got a problem that it's still not possible to solve it since we don't know the material then don't know σ.

Who could tell me what's going here. I appreciate it.
The Drude scattering time is a material property - it depends on the mean free path and the free electron density. We need to see the original question, exactly as it was given to you, to help with this.
 
Thanks ! I'm approaching it, but there's still sth missing.

coulumb x s / kg

coulumb = J / volt , J=kg.m/s^2 -> plug in, and get

( kg.m/s^2 ) . s (1/kg) = m / v.s -> cm / v.s -> still can't get cm^2 / v.s
 
tigigi said:
J=kg.m/s^2
No, that's a Newton. 1J=1kg.m^2/s^2
 
I really really appreciate it. I forget too many things.
 

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