Can the Fermat's Last Theorem be expanded to higher powers?

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The discussion revolves around the extension of Fermat's Last Theorem to higher powers, specifically exploring whether equations of the form a^n + b^n + c^n = d^n and a^n + b^n + c^n + d^n + e^n = f^n have solutions in natural numbers for n greater than 2. Participants also reference Euler's conjecture and its implications for the existence of solutions based on the number of summands.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a conjecture regarding the existence of solutions for a^n + b^n + c^n = d^n for n = 3 and questions the solvability for higher n.
  • Another participant points out that Euler's conjecture, which relates to the number of summands needed for solutions, has been proven false with counterexamples.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the implications of Euler's conjecture and questions the necessity of a specific number of variables for higher powers.
  • Further discussion includes a participant's curiosity about the need for more or fewer variables as n increases, particularly at large values of n.
  • One participant challenges the conclusions drawn from counterexamples and suggests that a more general theorem should be pursued regarding powers of n and natural solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach consensus on the existence of solutions for higher powers, and there are multiple competing views regarding the implications of Euler's conjecture and the need for further exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference Euler's conjecture and its counterexamples but do not provide a comprehensive framework for understanding the implications of these findings on the broader question of natural number solutions for higher powers.

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You all know that the Fermats last theorem is solved for some years and that the equation

a^n + b^n = c^n

is solved when a,b,c being the natural numbers only for n = 2.

I would like to expand a problem:

Can anybody proove that:

a^n + b^n + c^n = d^n has a solutions a,b,c,d in the natural numbers for n = 3 and that for each higher n equation is non solveable?

Lets carry on: Can anybody proove that a^n + b^n + c^n + d^n + e^n = f^n for n = 4 the last solution exists?and for n>4 there are no solutions?

Thanks,

Robert

it would be very nice to find the rule, how many particles on the power of n you have to sum that you get the last solution of the equation in order of given n.
 
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You appear to be asking about Euler's conjecture, which is now known to be false.

958004 + 2175194 + 4145604 = 4224814
275 + 845 + 1105 + 1335 = 1445
 
So you need at least n-1 natural numbers in order to define next one ? I don't know anything about Eulers conjecture...I don't even know it exists :)
 
Sorry now I see, haven't heard about it before. I have read it on Wikipedia now. But its funny that I got the idea without hearing f it :) Just some centuries too late :)
 
Just one more thing. Does this holds for any n? How can we know or assume, how many variables we need in order to describe a next one?Isnt it possible that when we reach n = 1000 we need much more variables (or less) than when n = 999? Does it have any importance in some special vector spaces? Thank you.
 
Euler's conjecture was that solutions would only exist if the number of summands was greater than or equal to the power. His conjecture stated that, for example, integer solutions exist to a3+b3+c3=d3 and to a4+b4+c4+d4=e4 but not to a4+b4+c4=d4 or a5+b5+c5+d5=e5. The counterexamples in post #2 show that this is conjecture is not true.

You are leaping to conclusions based on those counterexamples. Don't do that.
 
Thank you so much, you are really kind. Yes I got that,,, BUT why don't the matematicians do the another theorem about powers of n and natural solutions in general? I mean, this Eulers conjecture is now proved to be wrong, so why don't they do better one, till is proved to be right or in worse case wrong? Those 2 are only specific cases for general Eulers Conjecture. And it is very true if you find the solution so, that for the lower n-s does not hold true. I think it should be proven to be wrong in general for every n.
 

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