Can this inequality be proven under given conditions?

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The discussion revolves around proving the inequality $$ \frac{m!}{\lambda^{m+1}} \cdot \sum_{j=0}^{m} \frac{\lambda^j}{j!} \leq \frac{2}{\sqrt{\lambda}} $$ under the condition that $$ m+1 < \lambda $$, where $$\lambda$$ is a real number and $$m$$ is an integer. Participants explore various mathematical approaches, including induction and the Incomplete Gamma Function, while addressing potential errors in reasoning.

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  • One participant suggests using induction to prove the inequality, proposing a specific inductive step involving the function $$f(\lambda) = 1 - \frac{1}{\lambda} + \frac{1}{2\sqrt{\lambda}}$$.
  • Another participant challenges the validity of the proposed function, providing a counterexample where $$f(9) > 1$$, indicating a flaw in the inductive proof.
  • Some participants express difficulty in finding an adequate bound using induction and suggest exploring the Incomplete Gamma Function as an alternative approach.
  • A later reply proposes a new method involving the manipulation of the inequality and defining a function $$f(x)$$, asserting that its derivative is negative, which could help in proving the inequality.
  • Participants discuss the context of the problem, revealing it is part of a Diplom-Thesis, which adds complexity to the proof requirements.
  • One participant attempts to derive a bound using the identity theorem of power series and integrals, leading to a new question about proving a specific integral inequality.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of the proposed methods or the correctness of the calculations. Multiple competing views and approaches remain, with ongoing debate about the best way to prove the inequality.

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Limitations include unresolved mathematical steps and the dependence on specific assumptions about the values of $$\lambda$$ and $$m$$. The discussion reflects a range of hypotheses and proposed methods without definitive conclusions.

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Hallo, could comeone help me to proof this inequality:

$$ \frac{m!}{\lambda^{m+1}} \cdot \sum_{j=0}^{m} \frac{\lambda^j}{j!} \leq \frac{2}{\sqrt{\lambda}} $$.

under condition $$ m+1 < \lambda $$.

$$\lambda$$ is real and $$m$$ is integer.
 
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klim said:
$$ \frac{m!}{\lambda^{m+1}} \cdot \sum_{j=0}^{m} \frac{\lambda^j}{j!} \leq \frac{2}{\sqrt{\lambda}} $$. under condition $$ m+1 < \lambda $$. $$\lambda$$ is real and $$m$$ is integer.

I suppose you mean $\lambda>0$ and $m \geq 0,$ otherwise the inequality has no sense. Use induction. For the inductive step, $$ \frac{(m+1)!}{\lambda^{m+2}} \cdot \sum_{j=0}^{m+1}\frac{\lambda^j}{j!}=\frac{m!}{\lambda^{m+1}}\cdot\frac{m+1}{\lambda}\left(\sum_{j=0}^{m}\frac{\lambda^j}{j!}+\frac{\lambda^{m+1}}{(m+1)!}\right)\\
\underbrace{\leq}_{\text{Hip. induc.} }\frac{m+1}{\lambda}\cdot \frac{2}{\sqrt{\lambda}}+\frac{(m+1)!}{\lambda^{m+2}}\cdot \frac{\lambda^{m+1}}{(m+1)!} $$ $$=\frac{m+1}{\lambda}\cdot \frac{2}{\sqrt{\lambda}}+\frac{1}{\lambda}\underbrace{\leq}_{\text{if }{}1+m<\lambda-1}\frac{\lambda-1}{\lambda}\cdot \frac{2}{\sqrt{\lambda}}+\frac{1}{\lambda}$$ $$=\frac{2}{\sqrt{\lambda}}\left(1-\frac{1}{\lambda}+\frac{1}{2\sqrt{\lambda}}\right).$$ Now, consider $f: (0,+\infty)\to \mathbb{R},\; f(\lambda)=1-\dfrac{1}{\lambda}+\dfrac{1}{2\sqrt{\lambda}}.$ It is easy to prove that $f(\lambda)\leq \color{red}17/16$ for all $\lambda>0.$ As a consequence $$\frac{(m+1)!}{\lambda^{m+2}} \cdot \sum_{j=0}^{m+1}\frac{\lambda^j}{j!}\leq \frac{2}{\sqrt{\lambda}}\color{red}\cdot \frac{17}{16}\color{black}.\qquad\blacksquare$$
 
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Fernando Revilla,
thank you very much for your answer . But your solution has an error an the end.
$f(\lambda)=1-\dfrac{1}{\lambda}+\dfrac{1}{2\sqrt{\lambda}}$ is not always less OR equal ONE. For example: $\lambda=9$.
$f(\lambda)=f(9)=1-\frac{1}{9}+\frac{1}{2 \cdot 3}=1-\frac{1}{9}+\frac{1}{6}=\frac{19}{18} > 1$.
So, I think the last step is not correct!
 
klim said:
But your solution has an error an the end.
$f(\lambda)=1-\dfrac{1}{\lambda}+\dfrac{1}{2\sqrt{\lambda}}$ is not always less OR equal ONE. For example: $\lambda=9$.
$f(\lambda)=f(9)=1-\frac{1}{9}+\frac{1}{2 \cdot 3}=1-\frac{1}{9}+\frac{1}{6}=\frac{19}{18} > 1$.
So, I think the last step is not correct!

Right, I had plotted $f(\lambda)=1-\dfrac{1}{\lambda}-\dfrac{1}{2\sqrt{\lambda}}$ instead. I'll try to find a better bound.
 
I can't get an adequate bound using the induction method. Have you covered the Incomplete Gamma Function? Then, you can try using $$\frac{m!}{\lambda^{m+1}}\sum_{j=0}^m\frac{\lambda^j}{j!}=\frac{e^{\lambda}\;\Gamma(m+1,\lambda)}{\lambda^{m+1}}.$$
 
Fernando Revilla said:
I can't get an adequate bound using the induction method. Have you covered the Incomplete Gamma Function? Then, you can try using $$\frac{m!}{\lambda^{m+1}}\sum_{j=0}^m\frac{\lambda^j}{j!}=\frac{e^{\lambda}\;\Gamma(m+1,\lambda)}{\lambda^{m+1}}.$$
is there any adaquate bound for Incomplete Gamma Function?
 
klim said:
is there any adaquate bound for Incomplete Gamma Function?

No, there isn't. But your problem is equivalent to prove that $$e^{\lambda}\;\Gamma(m+1,\lambda)\leq \frac{2\lambda^{m+1}}{\sqrt{\lambda}}\quad (m+1<\lambda).$$ Use the recurrence relation $\Gamma (a+1,x)=a\Gamma (a,x)+x^ae^{-x}$ to prove that $$e^{\lambda}\;\Gamma(m+2,\lambda)\leq \frac{2\lambda^{m+2}}{\sqrt{\lambda}}\quad (m+2<\lambda).$$
 
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I have another idea, how to solve this.

We multiply both sides by $\sqrt{\lambda}$ and our aim now is to proof:
$ m! \cdot \sum_{j=0}^{m} \frac{\lambda^{-(m+\frac{1}{2}-j)}}{j!} \leq 2 $.
At the next step we define the function $f(x)=m! \cdot \sum_{j=0}^{m} \frac{x^{-(m+\frac{1}{2}-j)}}{j!} $ with $x > 0$.
It's clear, that derivative $f'(x) < 0$ for any [math]x > 0[/math]. So, to proof our initial inequality, it's enough to proof, that $f(m+1) \leq 2$.
For x=m+1 we have
$f(m+1)=m! \cdot \sum_{j=0}^{m} \frac{(m+1)^{-(m+\frac{1}{2}-j)}}{j!}=\sum_{j=0}^{m} \frac{m!}{j! \cdot (m+1)^{(m+\frac{1}{2}-j)}}$.
But: Is it possible to proof: [math]f(m+1) \leq 2[/math] for any integer $m \geq 0$ ?
 
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Before reviewing your proposal, a previous question. What is the context of your problem?, examination? research?, ...
 
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Fernando Revilla said:
Before reviewing your proposal, a previous question. What is the context of your problem?, examination? research?, ...

Diplom-Thesis!
 
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klim said:
Diplom-Thesis!
Well, then surely is not an isolated problem. Perhaps you need it to prove another thing, perhaps the inequality is only a conjecture, etc. I haven't been able to prove it. Even using the Incomplete Gamma Function, I can't avoid the $17/16$ bound.

I'll try again, but I can't assure you anything.
 
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Fernando Revilla said:
Well, then surely is not an isolated problem. Perhaps you need it to prove another thing, perhaps the inequality is only a conjecture, etc. I haven't been able to prove it. Even using the Incomplete Gamma Function, I can't avoid the $17/16$ bound.

I'll try again, but I can't assure you anything.

Right, it isn't an isolated problem. I have to proof one quite big theorem and a part of this proof is this inequality.

I have another idea, how could this theorem be proved.
We have to proof, that $ \frac{m!}{\lambda^{m+1}} \cdot \sum_{j=0}^{m} \frac{\lambda^j}{j!} \leq \frac{2}{\sqrt \lambda} $ для $m+1 < \lambda $.

So we have:
$ \frac{m!}{\lambda^{m+1}} \cdot \sum_{j=0}^{m} \frac{\lambda^j}{j!} \leq \frac{2}{\sqrt \lambda} \Leftrightarrow m! \cdot \sum_{j=0}^{m} \frac{\lambda^{j-m-\frac{1}{2}}}{j!} \leq 2 \Leftrightarrow m! \cdot \sum_{j=0}^{m} \frac{1}{\lambda^{m+\frac{1}{2}-j} \cdot j!} \leq 2 $.

Because of $ m+1 < \lambda $, it's enough to proof, that $ m! \cdot \sum_{j=0}^{m} \frac{1}{(m+1)^{m+\frac{1}{2}-j} \cdot j!} \leq 2 $.

Further: $ m! \cdot \sum_{j=0}^{m} \frac{(m+1)^{j-m-\frac{1}{2}}}{j!} = \frac{m!}{(m+1)^{m+\frac{1}{2}}} \cdot \sum_{j=0}^{m} \frac{(m+1)^j}{j!}=\frac{m!}{(m+1)^{m+\frac{1}{2}}} \cdot e^{m+1} \cdot \sum_{j=0}^{m} e^{-(m+1)} \frac{(m+1)^j}{j!}$
$=\frac{m!}{(m+1)^{m+\frac{1}{2}}} \cdot e^{m+1} \cdot Po(m+1)([0,m]) $ Using the identity theorem of power series, we can proof, that $Po(m+1)([0,m])=\int_{(m+1)}^{\infty} \left( e^{-t} \cdot \frac{t^m}{m!} \right) dt $

In this way we get: $ m! \cdot \sum_{j=0}^{m} \frac{(m+1)^{j-m-\frac{1}{2}}}{j!} = \frac{m!}{(m+1)^{m+\frac{1}{2}}} \cdot e^{m+1} \cdot \int_{(m+1)}^{\infty} \left( e^{-t} \cdot \frac{t^m}{m!} \right) dt $.

After many calculations we get:
$ m! \cdot \sum_{j=0}^{m} \frac{(m+1)^{j-m-\frac{1}{2}}}{j!}=\frac{m!}{(m+1)^{m+\frac{1}{2}}} \cdot e^{m+1} \cdot Po(m+1)([0,m]) \leq$
$\leq \sqrt{m+1} \cdot \int_{1}^{\infty} exp \left( (1-t)-\frac{m(1-t)^2}{2} \right) dt $.

And the actual question:

Is it possible to proof. that $ \sqrt{m+1} \cdot \int_{1}^{\infty} exp \left( (1-t)-\frac{m(1-t)^2}{2} \right) dt \leq 2 $

If it is possible, then the proof is done!
 

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