Can Time Travel Really Avoid Violating Causality?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the concept of time travel and its implications for causality, exploring whether backward time travel can occur without violating causal relationships. Participants examine theoretical frameworks, including Quantum Field Theory and general relativity, and consider various models such as closed timelike curves and traversable wormholes.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether traveling backwards in time inherently violates causality.
  • One participant references Peskin and Schroeder, suggesting that Quantum Field Theory does not violate causality, as particles appearing to travel backwards in time are part of a symmetry in interactions.
  • Another participant introduces the Andromeda paradox, arguing it relates to the relativity of simultaneity rather than actual time travel.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of time, with one participant proposing that time is a concept of the mind and referencing Kant's philosophy.
  • Some participants express confusion about the implications of backward causality and how it relates to observations of particles over time.
  • Closed timelike curves (CTCs) are discussed, with some participants asserting that they violate causality, while others suggest that the laws of physics may not guarantee causality in the context of CTCs.
  • There is speculation about future theories of quantum gravity potentially ruling out CTCs, with references to string theory.
  • One participant argues that the lack of observed time travelers does not serve as evidence against the existence of CTCs, citing specific conditions under which time travel could occur.
  • There is clarification that traversable wormholes differ from Einstein-Rosen bridges and that exotic matter may be required for their existence.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the implications of time travel on causality, with no consensus reached on whether backward time travel can occur without violating causal principles.

Contextual Notes

Discussions involve complex theoretical frameworks and assumptions about time, causality, and the nature of particles, with unresolved questions about the implications of various models.

  • #61
JesseM said:
Are you pulling my leg? I said a few times you don't necessarily have to consider them "real" at all...

No i was being serious,i was reading that virtual particles in fact travel faster than light and backwards in time but don't violate causality,but i can't seem to wrap my head around this one.
 
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byron178 said:
No i was being serious,i was reading that virtual particles in fact travel faster than light and backwards in time but don't violate causality,but i can't seem to wrap my head around this one.
If you don't consider them real, but just a mathematical tool for making calculations about observable effects, why is this a problem? No actual measured effects go FTL or backwards in time.
 

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