Can We Artificially Create Clouds?

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The discussion revolves around the topic of artificially creating clouds and methods of weather modification. Participants explore various techniques, including cloud seeding and other proposed methods, while expressing skepticism about certain claims and sources.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about methods for creating clouds and express interest in weather modification techniques.
  • Cloud seeding is mentioned as a known method, though details on its effectiveness and implementation are not fully explored.
  • One participant references a technique involving magnetic systems for cloud creation, noting its reported success in the Islamic Middle East, but expresses skepticism about the credibility of the source.
  • Concerns are raised about the claims made by the magnetic systems proposal, particularly regarding the necessity of irrigation for successful agricultural outcomes, suggesting that the claims may be misleading.
  • Another participant shares anecdotal evidence of a conversation regarding the impact of rocket launches on the ozone layer, though this is presented as a tangential point.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of the proposed methods for creating clouds. There is skepticism regarding certain claims, particularly those related to magnetic systems, while cloud seeding is acknowledged but not deeply analyzed.

Contextual Notes

Some claims lack supporting evidence, and there are concerns about the credibility of certain sources. The discussion also highlights the dependence on definitions and assumptions regarding weather modification techniques.

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Lately I have been getting into meteorology and things alike. I have heard of people controlling the weather. So, what are some methods of creating clouds? List as many methods as you can.
 
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Kalrag said:
Lately I have been getting into meteorology and things alike. I have heard of people controlling the weather. So, what are some methods of creating clouds? List as many methods as you can.

I recently had a conversation which ended abruptly when I was informed the US wanted to get to the moon first to control the weather. :rolleyes:

On a brighter note, look up "cloud seeding". I don't know much about it, but I've heard it's been done.
 
jarednjames said:
I recently had a conversation which ended abruptly when I was informed the US wanted to get to the moon first to control the weather. :rolleyes:

On a brighter note, look up "cloud seeding". I don't know much about it, but I've heard it's been done.

On a slightly unrelated note, I had a friend who was talking to some old guy one day. This guy stated, and I quote, "If they weren't shooting rockets up through the ozone, they wouldn't get them holes in it!".

 
Drakkith said:
On a slightly unrelated note, I had a friend who was talking to some old guy one day. This guy stated, and I quote, "If they weren't shooting rockets up through the ozone, they wouldn't get them holes in it!".

:smile:
 
Kalrag said:
So, what are some methods of creating clouds? List as many methods as you can.

1) http://www.magneticeast.com/ecology/rain.html
This technique for creating clouds seems to have made some progress in the Islamic Middle East.

Respectfully submitted,
Dotini
 
Dotini said:
1) http://www.magneticeast.com/ecology/rain.html
This technique for creating clouds seems to have made some progress in the Islamic Middle East.

Respectfully submitted,
Dotini

I'm going to look into this, it appears like a crackpot site from the outset - in fact it screams it. I'll report back on my findings.

EDIT: Scrap that, here is something right down the bottom of the page that worries me:
For successful implementation of the proposal at large it is required to undertake the following efforts:
Fit irrigation spray networks on all islands in Abu Dhabi waters with magnetic systems. Irrigation of agricultural crops shall be seen as a primary condition for generation of rain clouds.
Equip the city irrigation system with magnetic devices.
Run publicity on a regular basis in mass media of this country with emphasis on benefits of magnetic systems for private farms. Estimated length of program before completion - 5 years.

This is non-sense. It's no different to putting a magnet on your gas meter.

They are claiming "after installation of magnetic generators, desert turned into a blooming garden.", yet for this to work you have to install irrigation - of course it's going to turn into a successful garden if you install irrigation, clouds or not. Not to mention the fact they want you to spread propaganda.

5 years with a good irrigation system will give you good agriculture, no need for this mumbo jumbo.

EDIT 2: They also claim the system reduces water useage, but gives up to 60% more crops.
 
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