Can You Combat Johnson Noise and Shot Noise in Instrumentation?

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The discussion revolves around Johnson noise and shot noise in the context of instrumentation, specifically seeking ways to mitigate these types of noise in sensor applications.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants inquire about the specific context of the noise issues, including sensor technology, amplification needs, and signal characteristics. There is also a focus on understanding the effects of temperature and bandwidth on noise types.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring various aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between temperature and Johnson noise, but no consensus or definitive solutions have emerged yet.

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The original poster notes a lack of context and specific countermeasures in their class materials, indicating a potential gap in available resources for addressing the question posed in their instrumentation class.

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I was wondering if someone could give me some ways to combat Johnson noise and shot noise.

Thanks
 
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Sure. What is the context? If it's noise in a sensor, what is the sensor technology? How much amplification do you need? What is the bandwidth and character of the signal that you are amplifying? What kind of back-end processing are you doing of the signal?
 
There isn't really a context. I'm in an instrumentation class, and one of the questions is "Describe the origins of Johnson noise and Shot noise and appropriate countermeasures you can take to deal with them."

I know what they are, but I've been trying for the life of me to find out what the countermeasures are. I don't have them in my class notes and they're not in the textbook.
 
Well, tell me a little about the effects of temperature and bandwidth on each.
 
ultimateguy said:
There isn't really a context. I'm in an instrumentation class, and one of the questions is "Describe the origins of Johnson noise and Shot noise and appropriate countermeasures you can take to deal with them."

I know what they are, but I've been trying for the life of me to find out what the countermeasures are. I don't have them in my class notes and they're not in the textbook.

A simple way is to write down the equations giving their spectral density and/or their integrated RMS constribution, and to see what factors lower it. Hint: lowering the temperature might help for Johnson noise. But also other things play a role. Now look at the other quantities in the formulas...
 

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