Can you derive a formula for the critical angle when pulling a thread roll?

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The critical angle for unwinding a thread roll is determined by the application of Newton's first law, focusing on the net torque required to initiate unwinding. The formula involves the concepts of center of mass and the radius of the thread roll. When the torque about the axis of rotation is zero, the thread roll remains stationary. Understanding these principles is essential for deriving the critical angle formula.

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Homework Statement


Hello, the question itself is pretty abstract.
When pulling a thread roll, there is an critical angle, where the thread does not start to unwind itself. Instead, the thread roll itself starts to move.
Derive an formula for determining that critical angle.

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Most probably it is about using the Newtons' first law, as the angular acceleration and speed remains constant (0).

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I think the final formula will include centermass conception and radius of the thread-roll. But I have no idea, from where to start..
 
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To start unwinding (i.e. change its state of rotational motion), the thread roll needs to have a net torque applied to it about the axis of rotation. So if the torque is zero about the axis of rotation, the thread roll will not start unwinding. Start from there.
 

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