Can You Determine the Sum of All Natural Numbers Less Than Their Combined Roots?

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The discussion centers on the mathematical inequality involving natural numbers, specifically the condition \( n < \sqrt{n} + \sqrt[3]{n} + \sqrt[4]{n} \). Participants explore the implications of this inequality for determining the sum of all natural numbers that satisfy it. The conclusion drawn is that the sum can be calculated by identifying the natural numbers that meet the specified condition.

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$ n\in N$

$n<\sqrt n + \sqrt[3]{n} + \sqrt[4]{n}$

find :$ \sum n $
 
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My solution:

I would write the given inequality as:

$$n-n^{\frac{1}{2}}-n^{\frac{1}{3}}-n^{\frac{1}{4}}<0$$

Divide through by $$n^{\frac{1}{4}}>0$$ to obtain:

$$n^{\frac{3}{4}}-n^{\frac{1}{4}}-n^{\frac{1}{12}}-1<0$$

Let $$u=n^{\frac{1}{12}}$$ and we have:

$$u^9-u^3-u-1<0$$

Defining:

$$f(u)=u^9-u^3-u-1$$

we see that:

$$f(1)<0$$ and $$f(2)>0$$

and:

$$f'(u)=9u^8-3u^2-1$$

we see also that:

$$f'(x)>0$$ for $$1\le x$$

So we may apply Newton's method to find the real root of $f$ on $(1,2)$.

$$u_{n+1}=u_n-\frac{f\left(u_n \right)}{f'\left(u_n \right)}$$

Using the definition of $f$, we have:

$$u_{n+1}=u_n-\frac{u_n^9-u_n^3-u_n-1}{9u_n^8-3u_n^2-1}=\frac{8u_n^9-2u_n^3+1}{9u_n^8-3u_n^2-1}$$

Letting $u_0=1$, we then recursively obtain:

$$u_1=1.4$$

$$u_2\approx1.27679115672466$$

$$u_3\approx1.19600432443480$$

$$u_4\approx1.16202903329198$$

$$u_5\approx1.15671666316563$$

$$u_6\approx1.15660010278918$$

$$u_7\approx1.15660004786155$$

$$u_8\approx1.15660004786153$$

$$u_9\approx1.15660004786153$$

Hence we know $$u\approx1.15660004786153$$ is the only real root of $f$ on $[1,\infty)$ and so:

$$n=u^{12}\approx5.73057856869580$$

Hence:

$$n\in\{1,2,3,4,5\}$$

And so:

$$\sum n=15$$
 
Albert said:
$ n\in N$

$n<\sqrt n + \sqrt[3]{n} + \sqrt[4]{n}$

find :$ \sum n $
$n<\sqrt n + \sqrt[3]{n} + \sqrt[4]{n}=k$
$3\sqrt[3]{n} <k<3 \sqrt[2]{n}$
if $n<3\sqrt[2]{n}$,then $n<9---(1)$
if $n<3\sqrt[3]{n}$,then $n<6---(2)$
for :$7=3+2+2=\sqrt 9+\sqrt [3]{8} +\sqrt[4]{16}>\sqrt 7+\sqrt[3]{7}+\sqrt[4]{7}$
$\therefore \sum n =1+2+3+4+5=15$
 
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