Can't Row Reduce Matrix - Finding Nullspace and Imagespace

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the nullspace and imagespace of a given non-square matrix. The original poster expresses difficulty in row reducing the matrix and seeks clarification on the procedure for determining these spaces.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the method of Gaussian elimination for row reduction and question the original poster's difficulties. Some suggest expressing the nullspace in terms of equations involving variables x, y, and z. Others mention that the procedure for finding the image and nullspace should be similar to that of a square matrix.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants offering different perspectives on the row reduction process and the nature of the nullspace. There is no explicit consensus, but several approaches and clarifications are being explored.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions using a math program (Maple) but expresses a preference for understanding the concepts rather than relying on software. There is uncertainty regarding the appropriate modulus for the calculations in the program.

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Hello everyone...
I have the following matrix:
A =
-1 -4 1
7 -9 0
10 3 -3
-9 1 2

I can't row reduce this sucker! This isn't an agumented matrix i don't think, so i can't just take the square matrix and then find the inverse and mutliply it by vector b to find the values of a, b, c, d; So because i can't do this, I'm getting suck on figuring out the Nullspace and image space. What is the procedure to find the null and image space of a matrix that isn't nxn?

I'm trying to check it with maple ( a math program ) to see if there but i created the matrix, did all that good stuff now typed in Nullspace(A) mod P; what mod am i suppose to use, they didn't explain that part. But i'd rather have an explanation than a program doing it for me. Thanks.
 
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Why can't you row reduce it? Just use Gaussian elimination. This matrix can be reduced to Jordan-form in 2 steps.
 
Or you can just think of the null space as (x,y,z) satisfying
x- 4y+ z= 0
7x-9y= 0
10x+ 3y- 3z= 0
-9x+ y+ 2z= 0

What x, y, z satisfy all four of those?
 
The procedure to find the image and nullspace of a nonsquare matrix should be exactly the same as for a square matrix.
 

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