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The discussion revolves around a probability question related to the card game Snap, specifically focusing on the likelihood of players turning over four cards without a match occurring. Participants are analyzing the conditions under which matches can happen and the implications for calculating probabilities.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are examining different scenarios that could lead to no matches when turning over cards. There is a focus on the calculations presented by the original poster and the identification of missing cases in their reasoning.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original calculations and suggesting that additional cases need to be considered. There is an active exploration of the problem, with no clear consensus yet on the correct approach.

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Participants are questioning the assumptions made in the original probability calculation, particularly regarding the conditions under which matches can occur in the game. There is an acknowledgment that the rules of Snap affect the probability outcomes being discussed.

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In the card game Snap, two players each start with half of a shuffled deck. Alternately, each player turns up the top card of their pile. When the top cards of the face-up piles match (but are obviously different suits), the first person to say “snap” gets both face-up piles. When a player reaches the bottom of their pile, both players shuffle their cards then resume playing.

b. What is the probability that the players will turn over 4 cards (2 each without a match).

P(turn over 4 cards with no match: 48/51 * 44/50 * 40/49 * 36/48 = 2112/4165

Unfortunately, that was the wrong answer. The answer is 3464/4165 and I am not sure why.
 
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Hi Procrastinate! :wink:
Procrastinate said:
b. What is the probability that the players will turn over 4 cards (2 each without a match).

P(turn over 4 cards with no match: 48/51 * 44/50 * 40/49 * 36/48 = 2112/4165

He he :biggrin: … you've obviously never played snap!

You can only shout "SNAP!" if the top cards on each pile match. :smile:
 
You are calculating when all 4 cards are different. But that's not the only way for no matches to occur.
 
Tedjn said:
You are calculating when all 4 cards are different. But that's not the only way for no matches to occur.

Actually, my mistake, I forgot to add the previous cards back in since they are no longer the top card. Therefore it is:

48/51*47/50*46/49
 
You are still missing a case. What happens if the third card is equal to the first card?
 

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