Career advice with no technical skills

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The discussion revolves around career advice for individuals with a mechanical engineering background but lacking technical skills, particularly focusing on non-technical career paths in fields like marketing or finance. Participants explore potential job opportunities, educational pathways, and the relevance of certifications in the engineering field.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to transition into marketing or finance, highlighting their sales experience and current role as an administrative assistant.
  • Another participant suggests that educational institutions primarily teach theory rather than practical skills, implying that trade schools might be more beneficial for acquiring hands-on skills.
  • Some participants share personal experiences in engineering roles, noting that many workplaces expect to train new hires, regardless of their educational background.
  • There is mention of trade organizations that could provide networking opportunities and resources for new engineers.
  • A participant questions whether a Fundamentals of Engineering (FE) or Engineer in Training (EIT) certification is necessary to work in the US, with responses indicating that while not required, a Professional Engineer (PE) certificate could enhance credibility.
  • Another participant emphasizes that their engineering program did not provide hands-on skills, contrasting it with Engineering Technology degrees that focus more on practical applications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the effectiveness of traditional engineering education versus trade schools, and there is no consensus on the necessity of certifications like FE or EIT for career advancement.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in their educational experiences, particularly regarding the lack of practical skills training in engineering programs. The discussion reflects varying perspectives on the value of certifications and the expectations of employers in the engineering field.

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I recently got a bachelors degree from out of US, and now i live in NYC. Even though i was extremely interested in mechanical engineering, the collage that i attended was not that great, and didn't teach me any technical skills. So i lost interest in school and only Got passing grades (2.6 GPA). I would like to know if there are any non technical paths that i can take. and if anyone knows of any job agencies or companies i can apply to.
 
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ddglom said:
the collage that i attended was not that great...
No kidding.:wink:

You might need to get a little more specific than simply saying "non-technical" in terms of what you're looking for. Do you still want to stay in the engineering field? What are your strengths and passions? What kind of experience do you have? What skills have you picked up along the way?
 
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Choppy said:
No kidding.:wink:

You might need to get a little more specific than simply saying "non-technical" in terms of what you're looking for. Do you still want to stay in the engineering field? What are your strengths and passions? What kind of experience do you have? What skills have you picked up along the way?
I want to move towards marketing or finance side. I only have sales experience. and right now i am working as a administrative assistant. Would you recommend geting a MBA
 
Educational institutions are not usually good places to learn skills. They teach theory. If you wanted technical skills, you should have gone to a trade school. They'll teach skills with very little technical theory there.

Over the years I met many Electrical Engineers who barely knew which end of a soldering iron to pick up. They didn't know how to trigger an oscilloscope, nor did they have any understanding of the losses incurred by impedance mismatches.

Like I said, you don't learn these things in school. So you're going in as a raw newbie. Don't worry. Most workplaces know this. Only the HR people have any delusions that you know something that you don't. I'd strongly advise you not to dispel those delusions. Just point out that you graduated. That's really all they care about.
 
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JakeBrodskyPE said:
Educational institutions are not usually good places to learn skills. They teach theory. If you wanted technical skills, you should have gone to a trade school. They'll teach skills with very little technical theory there.

Over the years I met many Electrical Engineers who barely knew which end of a soldering iron to pick up. They didn't know how to trigger an oscilloscope, nor did they have any understanding of the losses incurred by impedance mismatches.

Like I said, you don't learn these things in school. So you're going in as a raw newbie. Don't worry. Most workplaces know this. Only the HR people have any delusions that you know something that you don't. I'd strongly advise you not to dispel those delusions. Just point out that you graduated. That's really all they care about.
What do you think would be good place to start?
 
It depends upon what you'd like to do. Personally, I'm biased because I have built a very nice career at a large water utility. I found it to be surprisingly fun, interesting, meaningful work. I really enjoy working on that virtually invisible critical infrastructure that makes city life possible.

There are often positions open for brand new engineers like you. Don't worry, they know they'll have to train you because frankly there are no schools where you learn to work on scales that large, except on the job.

There are also trade organizations where you can learn about such things. Examples include the International Society for Automation (ISA), The American Water-Works Association, and others. They have Young Professional networks in these organizations for bringing new engineers into the fold.

But that's just my bias. As anyone else, and I'm sure you'll get a different answer.
 
JakeBrodskyPE said:
It depends upon what you'd like to do. Personally, I'm biased because I have built a very nice career at a large water utility. I found it to be surprisingly fun, interesting, meaningful work. I really enjoy working on that virtually invisible critical infrastructure that makes city life possible.

There are often positions open for brand new engineers like you. Don't worry, they know they'll have to train you because frankly there are no schools where you learn to work on scales that large, except on the job.

There are also trade organizations where you can learn about such things. Examples include the International Society for Automation (ISA), The American Water-Works Association, and others. They have Young Professional networks in these organizations for bringing new engineers into the fold.

But that's just my bias. As anyone else, and I'm sure you'll get a different answer.
That was helpful, thank you. Is a FE or a EIT required to work in the US?
 
My engineering program does not teach hands on skills. For example I learned all I know about designing, installing (wiring), testing, and finally turning on controllers from my current employer.

Engineering Technology degrees teach more hands on skills and less theory, real Engineering degrees teach theory. I didn't get an EET degree because I am already qualified to do the job of a technologist...
 
ddglom said:
That was helpful, thank you. Is a FE or a EIT required to work in the US?
No, it is not required. However, if you are eager to take a position of leadership, or if you're looking for a bit more credibility to match your real experience, a PE certificate is a big plus.
 

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