Why Does Casimir's Trick Include Nonphysical Neutrino Helicities?

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The discussion revolves around the application of Casimir's trick in the context of electron neutrino scattering, specifically addressing the inclusion of nonphysical right-handed helicity states in calculations. Participants explore the implications of this inclusion and its mathematical validity within the framework of particle interactions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the mathematical contribution of nonphysical right-handed helicity states when applying Casimir's trick, despite understanding that the final average accounts for only one neutrino spin.
  • Another participant notes that the interaction vertex includes a projection onto left-handed states, implying a restriction on the helicity states considered.
  • A follow-up inquiry seeks clarification on how the interaction vertex would change if only right-handed states were to interact, suggesting a potential modification to the vertex structure.
  • Participants express a desire for clearer explanations of the underlying logic in the referenced literature, indicating a gap in understanding for some readers.

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Participants express differing views on the treatment of nonphysical helicity states and the implications for the interaction vertex, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about helicity states and the mathematical treatment of the interaction vertex, which are not fully explored or resolved.

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Hello

I was reading in Griffiths that in the case of electron neutrino scattering, one can apply Casimir's trick to sum over input and output spin states, including the neutrinos. My question is, how come you are allowed to include in the sum the nonphysical right handed helicity state ? And, yes, I understand that the final average takes into account that there is only one neutrino spin. But how does the nonphysical helicity not contribute mathematically, since it is included ?

Thank you.
 
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The interaction vertex contains a projection onto the left-handed states.
 
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Orodruin said:
The interaction vertex contains a projection onto the left-handed states.
Thank you for answering, but trying to understand your answer, given that the vertex is γμ (1-γ5), in a world where only right handed states interacted, what would the vertex change to ?
 
cipi said:
Thank you for answering, but trying to understand your answer, given that the vertex is γμ (1-γ5), in a world where only right handed states interacted, what would the vertex change to ?
##\gamma^\mu (1+\gamma^5)##
 
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Orodruin said:
##\gamma^\mu (1+\gamma^5)##
Great, I wished missing logic links like this were better explained in the book for leisure readers like myself. Thanks.

I noticed 15 pages later that the book sort of explains it.
 
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