Centripetal force problem ( not enough givens?)

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The discussion revolves around a centripetal force problem involving the Earth and the Moon, specifically focusing on determining the period of the Moon's rotation about Earth given limited information.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of missing mass values for the Earth and Moon and question whether gravitational force equations apply. There is mention of the need to consider the center of mass in the calculations, as well as the potential cancellation of mass in the formulas.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on applying Newton's Second Law and suggested looking for velocity and circumference. There is acknowledgment of the typical assumptions in physics problems regarding mass values, but no consensus on the necessity of center of mass calculations.

Contextual Notes

The problem lacks explicit mass values for the Earth and Moon, which has led to discussions about assumptions and typical practices in physics problem-solving.

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Hey guys, I could not understand this question. There weren't enough givens for myself to understand how to get the period.

1. Earth and the Moon are separated at their centres by a distance of 3.4x10^8m. Determine the period of the Moon's rotation about Earth.



2. mv^2/r=Fc



3. I wasn't sure if MG applies in this question since the mass of the moon wasn't stated although Earth does have gravity that keeps the moon in its orbit. I'm assuming something like mass is supposed to be canceled in the formulas, I just don't know how or which one.

The supposed answer is supposed to be 22.8 days
 
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You're exactly right, one of the masses will cancel.
There's a pretty straight forward way to do this problem with an application of Newton's Second Law and the formula acp = v2/r

Just do a force summation for the Moon. Look for a velocity, then consider the circumference.

Good Luck!

EDIT: Also, you mentioned that the problem did not give the mass of the Earth or Moon. Typically physics problems like this assume that you look the masses up in the tables in your book.
 
Also, you may need to do a center of mass calculation because the Moon does not orbit around the Earth's center but rather the systems center of mass.
 
This is true, however I don't believe this problem expects that. I calculated the answer using the R value that he gave and got the answer: 22.8 days
 
Brilliant said:
This is true, however I don't believe this problem expects that. I calculated the answer using the R value that he gave and got the answer: 22.8 days

Ok then, also if you ignore the center of mass you don't need to look up the mass of the moon (which is what the problem seems to want).
 

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