Centripetal Force: Solving with Tension in a Cylinder

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving centripetal force and tension in a cylindrical context, likely related to a ride or similar setup. Participants are exploring the forces acting on a person in this scenario, particularly how tension contributes to the necessary centripetal force.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the role of tension in providing centripetal force and question the physical objects exerting forces. There are inquiries about the relationship between vertical velocity, acceleration, and the forces acting on individuals in the ride. Some participants seek clarification on specific parts of the problem and the formulas needed for calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and guidance on how to approach different parts of the problem. There are multiple interpretations being explored, particularly regarding the forces involved and the necessary diagrams to visualize the scenario. Some participants express urgency for assistance, indicating a time constraint.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under a time constraint, with some expressing that the assignment is due soon. There is mention of needing to draw free body diagrams and understanding the relationships between different forces, such as gravitational and frictional forces.

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Homework Statement


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The Attempt at a Solution



A)
i think force of Tension give them necessary centripetal force directed toward the center of the cylinder.

C)
Centripetal Force

Plz help me
 
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First, please, please, do not self bump like this.
Second, for part A it is asking what physical object is exerting the force.
Part B: If the riders vertical velocity is zero (they're not falling or rising) and that doesn't change, what must be true of their acceleration and thus the vertical force?
Part C: Centripetal force is perpendicular to gravity here. Think what is happening between the person and the ride. (Read Part E for a hint)
 
what to do in d ?
 
Can Any One Help Me?
 
  • #10
what to do in d ?
 
  • #11
please help hurry its due after 3 hours
 
  • #12
For D, draw a Free body diagram. Just draw the force vectors that act on a person. Please don't keep bumping this.
 
  • #13
PiratePhysicist said:
For D, draw a Free body diagram. Just draw the force vectors that act on a person. Please don't keep bumping this.
than u . can u help me in e. what formula i need to use in e.
 
  • #14
Well, in this case we need a frictional force equal to the gravitational force (atleast). And a frictional force is dependent on the normal force, which in this case will be the centripetal force. So:
F_f=F_g

\mu F_C=F_g

\mu m \omega r = mg

\mu \omega r = g

\omega = \frac{g}{\mu r}

Then you just need to convert the angular frequency to a frequency using
\omega = 2 \pi f
 
  • #15
what is w is that v^2
 
  • #16
\omega is the angular velocity:
\omega = \frac{v^2}{r}
 
  • #17
PiratePhysicist said:
\omega is the angular velocity:
\omega = \frac{v^2}{r}
ok

\mu m \omega r = mg

why u wrote one more r
 
  • #18
Whoops, I typo'ed twice
It's:
\omega = \frac{v}{r}
and
F_c=m\frac{v^2}{r}=m\omega^2 r
So
\mu m\omega^2r=mg
\omega=\sqrt{\frac{g}{\mu r}}
 
  • #19
please hep
 

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