Certify that our stages being built to manufacturers specifications

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the requirement for an independent engineer to certify that temporary stages are built to manufacturers' specifications. Participants explore the challenges faced in complying with this requirement, particularly in the context of local regulations in Miami, FL.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the difficulty in finding an engineer willing to certify the stages due to liability concerns associated with temporary structures.
  • Another participant suggests contacting the manufacturer for support in obtaining certification.
  • A different participant notes that the City of Miami requires the engineer to be licensed in Florida, complicating the situation.
  • One suggestion involves having the manufacturer coordinate with a local Professional Engineer (PE) to facilitate the certification process, potentially reducing liability for the PE.

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Participants express a shared concern about the certification requirement and the challenges it presents, but there is no consensus on a definitive solution or approach to resolve the issue.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the specific regulatory requirements in Miami and the implications of liability for engineers, which may limit options for certification.

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Need your help with a small issue that we can't seem to resolve.

I live in Miami, FL. We were asked to hire an outside independent engineer to certify that our stages were being built to manufacturers specifications. We submitted CAD drawing for each stage along with load requirements with our permit application which has historically been the only requirement and inspected by City of Miami, FL building dept prior to event and by City of Miami, FL fire dept during setup.

These stages are temporary structures erected by certified stage contractors and not permanent. I have called 2 engineers to attempt at complying with this ridiculous request 4 days prior to the event and both stated that they would not accept because they are not willing to incur the liability on their license for a temporary structure which is totally understandable.

Please help me in finding a resolution to this surprise.
 
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Vhaxx202 said:
We were asked to hire an outside independent engineer to certify that our stages were being built to manufacturers specifications.
Have you contacted the manufacturer of these stages? Can they not support you?
 
Thought of that. The City of Miami Said that an engineer has to be licensed in the State of Florida.
 
Can you get the manufacturer to coordinate this with a local PE (Professional Engineer)? Perhaps the manufacturer could send someone to inspect the stage along with a local Florida PE. Have the manufacturer's rep present how it's installed to the PE. I can understand a PE's reluctance to do this but if there is technical support by the manufacturer, I'd think they would be much more likely to sign off on the stage assembly/inspection. Also, limiting the signature to assembly only might get the PE out of any trouble for failures due to poor design.
 

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