Change of variable, second order differentiation

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The discussion focuses on the process of taking the second derivative of a function defined by a change of variables, specifically for the equation w = f(x,y) where x = u + v and y = u - v. The initial attempt at calculating the first derivative dw/dx was incorrect, as it failed to account for the proper application of partial derivatives. The correct approach involves using the chain rule in Leibniz notation, which simplifies the calculation of partial derivatives with respect to u and v. The participants successfully clarified the method for obtaining the second derivative, emphasizing the importance of understanding partial derivatives in this context.

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Okay, so my problem lies within taking the second derivative of a change of variable equation.

w = f(x,y); x = u + v, y = u - v

so far I have the first derivative:

dw/dx = (dw/dv)(dv/dx) + (dw/du)(du/dx) = (d/dv + d/du)w

Now I'm having problems in finding my second derivative:

d2w/dx2 = ?

I don't necessarily want the answer, but more of how to get to the answer. I figure if I get how to do it with dw/dx, dw/dy would follow suit.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks.
 
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All your derivatives are partial derivatives, and your formula for dw/dx is completely wrong.

\frac{\partial w}{\partial x} is just itself; you can't do much with it without knowing more about f(x, y). What I think you want is the partial of w with respect to u, and possibly the partial of w with respect to v. From these you can get the second partials.

Here's the formula for the chain rule in Leibniz notation for your problem:

\frac{\partial w}{\partial u}~=~\frac{\partial w}{\partial x} \frac{\partial x}{\partial u}+ \frac{\partial w}{\partial y} \frac{\partial y}{\partial u}

This formula can be simplified, since
\frac{\partial x}{\partial u}~=~\frac{\partial x}{\partial v}~=~1

and

\frac{\partial y}{\partial u}~=~1
\frac{\partial y}{\partial v}~=~-1

\frac{\partial w}{\partial v} is calculated in a similar manner as was used for the partial of w with respect to u, by replacing u everywhere it appears in the formula above with v.
 
First I would like to thank you very much, also I knew they were partials, but I'm a noob to this forum, and didn't know how to put down partials!

The way I started to set it up, was with how the book explained to do it, but your way would probably be my normal approach. I did manage to get the right answer thanks to your help!

:biggrin:
 

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