Changing Base with Logs: How to Convert Expressions Using Base 14?

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The discussion centers around converting the expression ${a}^{\frac{5}{log}_{9{}^{a}}}$ to base 14. Participants explore the implications of changing logarithmic bases and clarify the intended mathematical operations involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to convert the expression using base 14, questioning the meaning of "indicated base."
  • Another participant expresses confusion about whether the base 9 logarithm should be converted to base 14.
  • A participant provides a substitution for the logarithm, using the identity $\log_{b}{x} = \frac{\ln x}{\ln b}$ to simplify the expression.
  • After simplification, a participant concludes that the expression evaluates to $9^5$, noting that the result remains unchanged regardless of whether natural logarithms or logarithms of base 14 are used.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the initial problem statement and whether the logarithm should be converted to base 14. There is no consensus on the interpretation of the "indicated base."

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference the logarithmic identity but do not clarify how it applies to the original problem. The discussion lacks a clear definition of what is meant by "indicated base," leading to multiple interpretations.

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Convert the Following expression to the indicated base, using base 14 for a > 0 & a \ne 1.$${a}^{\frac{5}{log}_{9{}^{a}}}$$
 
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Hi the. I've shortened up the title of your thread.

Did you intend

$a^{5/\log_9a}$

?

Why did you post this in trigonometry?
 
greg1313 said:
Hi the. I've shortened up the title of your thread.

Did you intend

$a^{5/\log_9a}$

?

Why did you post this in trigonometry?
THIS IS WHAT I MEANT! THANKS! though it was trig problem because in class my professor was going over trig...sorry if it was not [/QUOTE]
 
I'm still not clear on what's intended. Are we to convert the base 9 log to a base 14 log? If not, what is the "indicated base"?
 
greg1313 said:
I'm still not clear on what's intended. Are we to convert the base 9 log to a base 14 log? If not, what is the "indicated base"?

same also I don't know what is is asking for I ask my professor all he gave me was log{}_{b}{x}^{} = \frac{lnx}{lnb}
 
the said:
same also I don't know what is is asking for I ask my professor all he gave me was $\log_{b}{x} = \frac{\ln x}{\ln b}$

Okay, so let's substitute that:
$$a^{\frac 5 {\log_9 a}} = a^{\frac 5 {\frac{\ln a}{\ln 9}}}
=a^{\frac {5\ln 9} {\ln a}}
$$
Now let's take the logarithm of all of that and see where it brings us:
$$\ln \left(a^{\frac 5 {\log_9 a}}\right)
=\ln\left(a^{\frac {5\ln 9} {\ln a}}\right)
=\frac {5\ln 9} {\ln a} \ln(a)
= 5\ln 9
= \ln \left(9^5\right)
$$

Hey! That means that:
$$a^{\frac 5 {\log_9 a}} = 9^5$$
And that's even without referring to $\log_{14}$. (Cool)
Note that we could have used $\log_{14}$ everywhere instead of $\ln$. The result is the same.
 

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