Characteristic Polynomials and Minimal polynomials

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The discussion revolves around characteristic polynomials and minimal polynomials, focusing on two main questions: one involving multiple parts and another requiring a proof. Participants are seeking clarification and assistance with their understanding and proofs related to linear transformations and eigenvectors.

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  • One participant requests help with two questions, indicating they are struggling with concepts related to characteristic and minimal polynomials.
  • Another participant asks for the original poster to share their attempts to solve the questions, suggesting a collaborative approach.
  • A participant provides a proof attempt for the second question, expressing confusion about the lecturer's conclusion and seeking further clarification.
  • One participant suggests using induction to prove the second question, outlining a method involving eigenvalues and linear independence.
  • Another participant corrects a previous statement about the base case of induction, indicating a need for precision in the proof process.
  • A different participant references the rational canonical form and the Cayley-Hamilton theorem as tools to address parts of the first question, suggesting these concepts may simplify the problem.
  • Another participant reassures the original poster that their proof is straightforward and encourages them to review relevant definitions and concepts to enhance their understanding.

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Participants reference specific mathematical concepts such as linear independence, eigenvectors, and the Cayley-Hamilton theorem, but there are unresolved assumptions and steps in the proofs that may affect the clarity of the discussion.

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Hi, there are a few questions and concepts I am struggling with. The first question comes in 3 parts. The second question is a proof.

Question 1: Please Click on the link below :smile:

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Question 2: Please Click on the link below :smile:

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For Q2, could you please show me how to prove this. If possible, could you also link me to a web page where the full proof has already been provided?

I would appreciate the help.
 
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Hi xfunctionx,

Show us what you've done so far.
 
sure ... let me just write it up
 
Question 1 attempt: I got stuck early.

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Question 2 attempt/proof from lecture notes:

I don't understand what my lecturer did right at the end. Or how his conclusion proved anything. Please could you help me understand, or show me a better proof?

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For question two:

You can prove this by induction. Clearly, it's true for k = 0 since eigenvectors are always non-zero. Now, to prove it for k = n, we assume it's true for k = n - 1.

Suppose that,

(a_1)(v_1) + (a_2)(v_2) + ... + (a_n)(v_n) = 0

Apply T to the LHS, and you get

(λ_1)(a_1)(v_1) + (λ_2)(a_2)(v_2) + ... + (λ_n)(a_n)(v_n) = 0

Now, multiply the first equation by λ_n, and subtract it from the second. The last term will cancel out. You will be left with

(λ_1 - λ_n)(a_1)(v_1) + (λ_2 - λ_n)(a_2)(v_2) + ... + (λ_(n-1) - λ_n)(a_(n-1))(v_(n-1)) = 0.

By the inductive hypothesis, each of the coefficients here must be zero. Can you show that this implies the the a_i from i=1 to (n-1) must be 0? (Hint: Use the fact that the eigenvalues are distinct). Then the original first equation becomes (a_n)(v_n) = 0, so a_n too must be zero.
 
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dx said:
Clearly, it's true for k = 0 ...

Sorry, I meant k = 1.
 
dx said:
Sorry, I meant k = 1.

Thank you for your help dx, I will attempt the proof and try to understand it using induction.
 
Can anyone help me with question 1?
 
Have you gone over the rational canonical form of a matrix? Or the Cayley-Hamilton theorem? If you have, question 1 should be straightforward. The answer to part (a) is yes (use the rational canonical form). For (b), use the Cayley-Hamilton theorem. For (c), write D = S-1 T S, where S is an invertible matrix and D is diagonal. What's D2?
 
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Hello xf...nx

Your proof of 2nd question which according to you is from Lecture notes is quite straight forward using definition of Linear independence and eigen vectors and the defined LT and given hypothesis of the theorem. It is the best and simplest proof you have. Just read a bit about Linear independence, eigen vectors and linear transformation and you will find that the proof is quite straight forward and simple.
 

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