Chemicals that induce thirst in humans?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the chemicals that may induce thirst in humans outside of the typical physiological need for water. Participants explore various substances and their potential effects on thirst perception, including food ingredients and their interactions with the body's signaling mechanisms.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that MSG may induce thirst due to its sodium content, while others note it might have a stronger effect than regular salt.
  • There is speculation that the type of flour used in mass-produced muffins could contribute to thirst, with a focus on the combination of whole wheat and all-purpose flour.
  • Participants mention that sugars and starches, which convert to sugars, can also lead to increased thirst, with the hypothalamus being responsible for signaling this need.
  • One participant proposes that THC might induce thirst, although this claim is uncertain.
  • Diabetes is mentioned as a condition that can cause sudden thirst, with a cautionary note about other symptoms.
  • Common salt (sodium chloride) is identified as a primary cause of thirst, with potassium-rich foods suggested as a remedy.
  • There is a question raised about whether the thirst induced by MSG and salt can be categorized as the body genuinely needing water, with some participants suggesting that additional factors may be involved in the thirst response.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the chemicals that induce thirst, with no clear consensus on which substances are most effective or the mechanisms behind their effects. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific contributions of each chemical.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on personal experiences and anecdotal evidence, and there are unresolved questions about the biochemical mechanisms at play in thirst induction.

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Which chemicals induce thirst or make the neurons that are responsible for the brain to feel thirsty work without the 'normal' reasons (body genuinely needing water) for thirst.

My guesses from experience:
MSG
Mass produced muffins (they probably have a chemical that induce this type of thirst)
 
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With the muffins, it may have to do with the flour they use in them. Probably a mixture of whole wheat, and all-purpose. Whole wheat flour is the kind that is in graham crackers.
 
MSG is a sodium, a salt, which of course can make you thirsty.
Sugars also make you thisty. Starches which convert to sugars in our bodies will make you thirst too.
The hypothalamus, is what sends us the message that we need a drink.
 
Interesting question. There probably are such chemicals. THC might, although I could be mistaken.
 
Ive heard that getting very thirsty out of the blue is a symptom of diabetes.
 
Common salt (sodium chloride) is one of the main causes of thirst, it is common in most foods. Where salty food is the cause of thirst eating an apple (or other potassium rich food) can ease the symptom. Sugars and therefore diabetes can also cause thirst, if you have this problem and sores (cuts etc) seem to take a long time to heal - see your doctor.
 
Warfarin?...
 
hypatia said:
MSG is a sodium, a salt, which of course can make you thirsty.
I realize that MSG is a salt but it seems to make someone more thirsty than normal salt. For example, 1mg of MSG and 1mg of salt and you feel much more thirsty after the MSG. Plus MSG doesn't taste more 'salty' as normal salt. So other factors are probably at work.
 
I think MSG's thirst-inducing comes from the feeling it gives your mouth?
 
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Wouldn't thirst from MSG and salt fall into the category of the "body genuinely needing water?"
 
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dimensionless said:
Wouldn't thirst from MSG and salt fall into the category of the "body genuinely needing water?"

There is an element of "body genuinely needing water" because MSG is a salt but thirst after consuming it is so great that one gets a feeling that extra other factors are involved. Such as it making more than enough chemicals in the the nervous system to make one thirsty.
 

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