[Chemistry] Determine the concentration of h2o2 by redox titration

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the concentration of hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) through redox titration with potassium manganate (VII) and an alternative method. Participants explore the chemistry involved, including the role of sulfuric acid and the concept of '100-volume' hydrogen peroxide.

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  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why KMnO4 acts as its own indicator in the titration, noting the pale pink color at the endpoint.
  • Another participant explains that '100-volume' means one volume of H2O2 releases 100 volumes of oxygen when decomposed, but seeks clarification on the meaning of 'volume' in this context.
  • There is a suggestion that the concentration of H2O2 can be determined by measuring the volume of gas evolved from a known volume of solution.
  • A participant inquires about the proper preparation of KMnO4 in H2SO4 and whether the resulting concentration calculation is accurate, expressing confusion about the final volume of the solution.
  • Another participant challenges the assumption that the number of moles of H2SO4 would not exist after mixing with KMnO4, indicating a lack of clarity on this point.
  • Several participants express confusion regarding the preparation of a 0.05 mol dm-3 KMnO4 solution and the amount of H2SO4 needed, with one suggesting that volumes are not additive and that density tables may be required for accurate measurements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various uncertainties and questions regarding the chemistry involved, the preparation of solutions, and the interpretation of '100-volume'. There is no consensus on the correct approach to preparing the solutions or the implications of mixing reagents.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved the confusion regarding the final volume of the KMnO4 solution after mixing with H2SO4, nor have they clarified the implications of the '100-volume' concept in practical terms.

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Homework Statement



You are provided with a solution of hydrogen peroxide which is known to be approximately ‘100-volume’. Plan two experiments that would enable you to determine the exact concentration of H2O2 in mol dm-3, in this solution. One of your experiments should involve a redox titration with potassium manganate (VII). The other experiment should not involve a titration.

Homework Equations



2KMnO4 (aq) + 5H2O2 (aq) + 3H2SO4 (aq) --> 2MnSO4 (aq) + K2SO4 (aq) +5O2 (g) + 8H2O (l).

2H2O2 --> 2H2O + O2

3. My questions

Why is KMnO4 it's own indicator?

What is meant by 100-Volume and how can i put it into context?

What catalyses the disproportionation of h2o2?

4. The attempt at a solution

The end point of this reaction is noted by a pale pink colour. No indicator is required as the solution goes pale pink once all of the H2O2 has reacted. I know this has something to do with the redox chemistry but I am not exactly sure.

100-Volume one i believe this means one volume of h2o2 realeses 100 volumes of oxygen when catalytically decomposed. what does it mean by volume? And how can i use this to determine conc of h2o2 as the second experiment.

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Kevlarji said:
The end point of this reaction is noted by a pale pink colour. No indicator is required as the solution goes pale pink once all of the H2O2 has reacted. I know this has something to do with the redox chemistry but I am not exactly sure.

http://www.titrations.info/potentiometric-titration

No special chemistry involved - once you add excess of permanganate, its strong color is well visible in the solution.

100-Volume one i believe this means one volume of h2o2 realeses 100 volumes of oxygen when catalytically decomposed. what does it mean by volume?

Not sure what what you are asking about. 1 mL of solution gives 100 mL of gas.

And how can i use this to determine conc of h2o2 as the second experiment.

Start with known volume of solution, measure volume of gas evolved. MnO2 is a good catalyst, drop of blood will do the trick too, and I think cigarette ash is quite efficient at decomposing hydrogen peroxide as well, not too sure about the last one.
 
Hi Borek, I was wondering if you could help me. I'm doing the titration of H2O2 with KMnO4 in order to determine the concentration of H2O2. I understand that H2SO4 is required in the reaction, now if I dissolve the KMnO4 in H2SO4 does that count? Also, if I dissolve 2.5g of solid KMnO4 in 47.5cm3 of H2SO4. Will this be the resulting concentration?
2.5/ 50 = 0.05 mol dm-3.

Also, if I dissolve the KMnO4 in the acid, the number of moles of H2SO4 as required in the reaction (3) will not exist will it because the KMnO4 and the H2SO4 have been combined?

I appreciate any help! thank you!
 
mememe91 said:
I understand that H2SO4 is required in the reaction, now if I dissolve the KMnO4 in H2SO4 does that count?

No idea what you mean. If you dissolve permanganate in sulfuric acid you get strong oxidizing mixture.

Also, if I dissolve 2.5g of solid KMnO4 in 47.5cm3 of H2SO4. Will this be the resulting concentration?
2.5/ 50 = 0.05 mol dm-3.

Why do you think final volume will be 50 mL? I am almost sure it won't.

Also, if I dissolve the KMnO4 in the acid, the number of moles of H2SO4 as required in the reaction (3) will not exist will it because the KMnO4 and the H2SO4 have been combined?

Same problem as above - no idea what you mean. You have mixed these things, that's OK. Why do you think they don't exist any more?
 
I'm sorry, I'm really confused! How would I make a solution of KMnO4 of concentration 0.05 mol dm-3 by dissolving the manganate in H2SO4? How much H2SO4 would I need?
 
mememe91 said:
I'm sorry, I'm really confused! How would I make a solution of KMnO4 of concentration 0.05 mol dm-3 by dissolving the manganate in H2SO4? How much H2SO4 would I need?

Take correct amount of permanganate, dissolve in smaller volume of acid, once it is dissolved - fill up to 50 mL. Voumes are not additive and it is very difficult to predict what voume of acid you will need. You can do it sometimes having density tables.
 

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