Chemistry-potassium permanganate lab

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The discussion revolves around the use of potassium permanganate in titrations, specifically addressing why these titrations are performed in acidic solutions and the implications of finding brown stains in a standard solution of potassium permanganate. The scope includes theoretical aspects of redox reactions and practical considerations for laboratory experiments.

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  • One participant questions the necessity of performing titrations with permanganate in acidic solutions, suggesting that the oxidizing power appears to be higher in acidic conditions compared to basic conditions, though they express uncertainty about justifying this observation.
  • Another participant points out a potential misunderstanding regarding the notation of manganese species, questioning the accuracy of the chemical representation and the implications of charge changes during reduction.
  • A participant provides a link to an external resource on permanganate titration, indicating a desire for further information or clarification on the topic.

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Participants express differing views on the chemical behavior of potassium permanganate in various conditions, and there is no consensus on the justification for the observed oxidizing power or the correct chemical notation.

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There are unresolved questions regarding the conditions under which manganese ions may form precipitates and the implications of chemical notation errors on the understanding of the reactions involved.

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Q1: Why are titrations using permanganate performed in acid solution?

Q2: A bottle containing a standard solution of potassium permanganateis found to have brown stains on the inside. Why will this potassium permanganate be of no further use for quantitative experiments?

KNOWN:
Potassium Permanganate = KMnO4
It is known that potassium permanganate is a common lab oxidizing agent [it reduces]. It naturally has an intense purple color but when potassium permanganate is reduced all the way to Mn2+, it becomes colourless. A solution is titrated when a faint purple colour remains.
1/2 Reactions:
The reduction of permanganate:
In acid: MnO4- + 8H+ + 5e- ==> Mn2+ + 4H2O
In neutral solution: MnO4- + 4H+ + 3e- ==> Mn2+ + 2H2O
In base: MnO4- + e- ==> MnO42+
 
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Interesting that you indicate these:
1/2 Reactions:
The reduction of permanganate:
In acid: MnO4- + 8H+ + 5e- ==> Mn2+ + 4H2O
In neutral solution: MnO4- + 4H+ + 3e- ==> Mn2+ + 2H2O
In base: MnO4- + e- ==> MnO42+
See that those show the oxidizing power seems higher in acid conditions than in basic conditions. This might indicate a quantitative advantage but I'm not really sure how to justify this (maybe someone familiar with the nernst equation knows how). The manganese ion probably does not sit in solution just as the ion but may form an oxide brown precipitate; which condition necessary, not sure.
 
... also, jessica.so, you should use either more careful text use or apply the proper tag to express certain information.
MnO42+ is NOT what you mean. You mean MnO4+2 (that is if we can stick two tagged expressions together). (but somehow, that can not be what you meant, either. How do you reduce an ion and have a result with a higher positive charge?).
 
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