Chemistry: Stability of Atomic Orbitals

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the stability of atomic orbitals, specifically comparing the stability of various orbitals in carbon and argon. Participants explore concepts related to shielding, principal quantum number (n), and azimuthal quantum number (l), as well as their implications for electron stability.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether higher shielding means valence electrons are less tightly held by the nucleus, suggesting this could indicate instability.
  • Another participant proposes that higher shielding implies closer proximity to the nucleus, leading to tighter binding of electrons, though they express uncertainty about this view.
  • A third participant clarifies that n refers to the energy level of electrons, while l indicates the type of orbital (s, p, etc.), with specific values assigned to each type.
  • Further discussion suggests that higher shielding likely refers to the shielding effect caused by inner electrons, impacting the stability of outer electrons.
  • Participants note that n describes the location and energy of electrons, while l relates to the shape of the orbitals, with suggestions to visualize these concepts through drawings of atomic orbitals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of shielding for electron stability, with no consensus reached on whether higher shielding leads to greater or lesser stability. The roles of n and l in determining electron stability are also discussed, but remain somewhat unclear among participants.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully resolve the relationships between shielding, n, and l, and how these factors collectively influence the stability of atomic orbitals. There are also ambiguities in the definitions and implications of shielding in this context.

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Hey just need help regarding a few questions.

1. Which is more stable, C 2s or C 2p? Why? Choose the best answers from below:
(a)higher shielding (b) lower shielding (c) lower n value (d) lower l value

2. Which is more stable, Ar 5p or Ar+ 5p? Why? Choose the best answers from below:
(a)higher shielding (b) lower shielding (c) lower n value (d) lower l value

3. Which is more stable, Ar 4s or Ar 5s? Why? Choose the best answers from below:
(a)higher shielding (b) lower shielding (c) lower n value (d) lower l value

So does higher shielding means the valance electron are less tightly held by the nucleus? Hence unstable? What does n and l has to do with these questions?
 
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I would think higher shielding meant closer to the nucleus and so held MORE tightly, but not 100% on that.

n and l would be along the same idea. The lower n or l would mean closer to the nucleus and this would be an electron held more tightly
 
N refers to the energy level, and l would refer to the magnetic quantum number, i.e. what kind of orbital it is in (s, p, d, f, etc). l = 0 = s orbital, l = 1 = p orbital, and so on.
 
So does higher shielding means the valance electron are less tightly held by the nucleus? Hence unstable? What does n and l has to do with these questions?

Higher shielding probably means "higher shielding effect", i.e. inner electrons...

n describes the location and energy of the electrons

l describes the shape... s which is spherical? p which is dumbbell?

Try drawing the atomic orbitals to aid your quest.
 

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