Child molester avoids prison because he is short

[Jimmy Snyder]

I did not just make up my statistics.

Nor I mine.

 

[binzing]

Are you applying for the job?

What? No, simply stating that he can be the pincushion of the prison. Besides, it would probably keep the amount of fights down if everybody "had somebody" lol.

 

[Gokul43201]

No they don't.

Huh?? What do you mean by that?

7.25% / 4.75% is almost exactly identical to 11.8/7.76

And even if you ignore error bars from eyeballing a number out of the picture, there are additional errors that creep in from:

1. Extrapolating national data to Florida
2. Not correcting for age (the age distribution of inmates does not match the age distribution of the general population)
3. Not accounting for natural variance in incarceration rates over time (even over short time scales)
4. Not correcting for socio-economic background and local ethnic variations compared to the national average.

Your conclusion is premature.

 

[stickythighs]

Gokul,

I believe that your graph is incorrect. I believe that the median height of American men is
5'10". If I'm correct, then my thesis is correct.

If your graph is correct, you are correct.

 

[Artman]

Really? Dehumanising and abusing people is justice is it?

Its no wonder we never get anywhere with the criminal justice system if politicians have to appease the ignorant masses.

No, I think the justice is that he should be afraid of having the same thing he did to the girl happen to him.

You really think there is more harm done by putting this man in prison than placing him on probation? I read that the chemicals in the brain that lead to sexual addiction are 100 times more addictive than crack cocaine. You think this man is harmless to children merely under court supervision? I think he should at least have to undergo therapy, and I don't see that in the ruling.

Under terms of his probation, he will be electronically monitored for the first four months of his sentence, cannot be alone with people under 18 years old and must destroy his collection of pornography.

 

[Kurdt]

Fear of prison is neither justice nor a deterrent. People have to move beyond petty reactionary revenge reflexes. I agree that if sex addiction is this guys problem then he should have some form of therapy.

I don't know if he is more of a danger out of prison than in it. That was up to the judge and they made their decision.

 

[Gokul43201]

Gokul,

I believe that your graph is incorrect. I believe that the median height of American men is
5'10". If I'm correct, then my thesis is correct.

If your graph is correct, you are correct.

Please read the 4 points I listed out about various sources of error that you do not account for in your thesis.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

No, I think the justice is that he should be afraid of having the same thing he did to the girl happen to him.

You really think there is more harm done by putting this man in prison than placing him on probation? I read that the chemicals in the brain that lead to sexual addiction are 100 times more addictive than crack cocaine. You think this man is harmless to children merely under court supervision? I think he should at least have to undergo therapy, and I don't see that in the ruling.

It's incredibly common for guards to tell other inmates that a person is in as a sex offender specifically in order to put the person in danger. Some times they will even bribe or reward inmates for 'taking care of' sex offenders. And it's not sexual abuse against sex offenders in prison that they really have to worry about. They worry about being killed.

 

[Artman]

It's incredibly common for guards to tell other inmates that a person is in as a sex offender specifically in order to put the person in danger. Some times they will even bribe or reward inmates for 'taking care of' sex offenders. And it's not sexual abuse against sex offenders in prison that they really have to worry about. They worry about being killed.

That could happen outside of prison as well. I wonder how the parents took the verdict? They could not protect their child against this man, imagine the possible feelings of guilt. Now he's out on probation without serving time at all.

 

[stickythighs]

1. Extrapolating national data to Florida

Since the ratios still held true when I only included whites in my samples, I don't see how extrapolating national data to Florida would skew the results.

2. Not correcting for age (the age distribution of inmates does not match the age distribution of the general population)

Inmates tend to be young adults, between 18-30. 18-30 year olds tend to be taller than the average American. Therefore, correcting for age would bolster my thesis.

3. Not accounting for natural variance in incarceration rates over time (even over short time scales)

But my sample size is enormous. How in the nation could coincidences of a few tall or short people being arrested skew the results? I must not understand your point. Please elaborate.

4. Not correcting for socio-economic background and local ethnic variations compared to the national average.

Yes; Correcting for socio-economic background would make a substantial difference.

Although we're talking about a fairly small skew here, poor people tend to be shorter than affluent people. Very short people tend to be poor. Yes; saying that short Floridian men tend to be under the jurisdiction of the Florida Criminal Justice System is saying that poor Floridian men tend to be under the jurisdiction of the Florida Criminal Justice System.