China bans reincarnating without government permission

[Ivan Seeking]

Or better still, governments can require anyone postulating the existence of an omnipotent being to demonstrate that the existence of such being not lead to logical contradictions.

God works in mysterious ways. How can we as mere mortals ever hope to understand the actions of an omniscient and omnipotent being?

Doesn't omnipotence eliminate the need for logical consistency? ...and the water became wine. They fed thousands with a single loaf of bread, etc. Part of the justification for believing in omnipotence are "demonstrated" logical inconsistencies, otherwise known as miracles.

Keep them coming, I have 4000 years worth of one-liners.

 

[Gokul43201]

God works in mysterious ways. How can we as mere mortals ever hope to understand the actions of an omniscient and omnipotent being?

Doesn't omnipotence eliminate the need for logical consistency? ...and the water became wine. They fed thousands with a single loaf of bread, etc. Part of the justification for believing in omnipotence are "demonstrated" logical inconsistencies, otherwise known as miracles.

Miracles are not themselves logical inconsitencies within an axiomatic system that permits them. However, the axiomatic system itself must be free of internal inconsistencies.

For instance, the existence of a universal set (which I'm loosely associating with the existence of omnipotence) produces a paradox (Cantor's) within ZFC, but not within an NF axiomatic framework.

 

[qspeechc]

How is turning water into wine and feeding thousands with a single loaf logically inconsistent? It may be physically impossible, but there is nothing logically inconsistent about it.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

For instance, the existence of a universal set (which I'm loosely associating with the existence of omnipotence) produces a paradox (Cantor's) within ZFC, but not within an NF axiomatic framework.

what is ZFC and NF?

You would actually expect that this could be applied? It sure would have made L.A. Law more interesting, but I think you might be spending too much time in the Ivory tower.

Or are you complaining about the possibility of God making a rock so heavy that even he can't lift it? In God's eyes all things are possible. You are looking at the problem through those limited mortal eyes again.

Obviously God is a fan of The Many Worlds Theory.

 

[Curious3141]

what is ZFC and NF?

ZFC : Zermelo-Fraenkel with (Axiom of) Choice

NF : New Foundation

 

[Aether]

Part of the justification for believing in omnipotence are "demonstrated" logical inconsistencies, otherwise known as miracles.

There are unsubstantiated claims for miracles, but there is no "demonstrated" objective evidence at all for any of these miracles. Is there any basis at all (rational or otherwise) for believing any of these unsubstantiated claims other than "faith" that this omnipotent power itself guarantees that these unsubstantiated claims are true, and that these unsubstantiated claims have been communicated in a flawless written record? If not, then how can these unsubstantiated claims justify a belief in an omnipotent power when a belief in this same omnipotent power is what justifies a belief in the unsubstantiated claims?