Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around selecting an appropriate pH indicator for the titration of nitrous acid (HNO2) with sodium hydroxide (NaOH). Participants explore the implications of titrating a weak acid with a strong base, considering the expected pH at the equivalence point and the characteristics of various indicators.
Discussion Character
- Homework-related
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Mathematical reasoning
Main Points Raised
- One participant suggests that since HNO2 is a weak acid and NaOH is a strong base, the equivalence point will be above pH 7, potentially around pH 8, making phenolphthalein a suitable indicator.
- Another participant proposes performing an equilibrium pH calculation to determine the equivalence point pH, indicating that this is a common estimation method.
- A participant provides the acid dissociation constant (Ka) for HNO2 and expresses uncertainty about how to proceed with calculations, questioning whether to write a reaction equation.
- One participant emphasizes that the qualitative understanding of the titration process is important, noting that the resulting solution will contain the conjugate base of HNO2, which may lead to a slightly alkaline pH.
- Several participants express a desire to understand the equilibrium concentration calculations better, indicating a preference for a mathematical approach to support their reasoning.
- Another participant reflects on the nature of the problem, suggesting it is more about reasoning through the behavior of weak acids and strong bases rather than performing specific calculations.
- One participant suggests assuming reasonable concentrations for the titration, recommending calculations for both 0.001M and 1M solutions to determine the best indicator.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants generally agree that phenolphthalein is a likely suitable indicator due to the expected alkaline nature of the solution at the equivalence point. However, there is no consensus on the exact calculations or methods to determine the endpoint pH, and multiple approaches are discussed without resolution.
Contextual Notes
Participants note the absence of specific molar concentrations in the problem, which affects the ability to perform precise calculations. The discussion includes various assumptions about the behavior of the acid and base during the titration.